== Consolidated “Lost” Units Project ==

[Tsarevna]

W-Shady,
download the 2 zip files that lusted has included inside the thread, and you can see what he's already found. (Beware some of the instructions have typos and are incomplete, you can beta test them if you like.)
Just make backups of course

We are not ready for release yet, as we have gotta make sure everything works for 1.2, and have some unit cards and info cards made, write a few descriptions, assign recruitability to the factions for use in the campaign map, and possibly have some models worked on. (So that spears don't go through shields etc during phalanx formation, and elbows don't stick out of shields when units crouch down in hiding.)

Good news is that we have alot of work done, and since these models were not used in 1.1, they seem to not have .rum files associated with them from the patch, and so should not conflict with it.

[OceanPhoenix]

Can anybody tell me the full code for the roman gothic cavalry?
Also, I don't know if you already know, in the Alexander expansion there is a different hoplite skin for the slaves, but greek cities have the normal one because their alternate skin is glitchy. The shield and the helmet are messed up. I know Alexander isn't a popular expansion but if anybody has it, there you go. The only real difference is the shield though, it has a cool pattern on it. Also, every faction but the macedonians and persians in the campaign and the indians and greek cities in the custom battles have brown clothes, which could be put in the full game as barbarian/mercenary units?
I'm just speculating here.

[JWoods]

Here's a unit card for Parthian Heavy Armored East..

[Tsarevna]

hey vlad,
how did you get the scythian spearmen? (I know i could find this out myself but im very busy beta testing )
Could you please post the code? thanks

Also vlad,
i tried using the scythian swordsmen with the briton_swords like you said, but there is a bug with the scythian head now. (The briton swordsmen have no helmet, and their hair is poofy...and so the scythian skin with helmet doesn't look right.) Does it work on another model besides the briton swordsmen?

[vlad]

Tsarevna

type warband_sword_briton
skeleton fs_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture britons, data/models_unit/textures/briton_swordsman.tga
texture scythia, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_warband_scythia_.tga
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_briton_sword_high.cas, 8
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_briton_sword_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_briton_sword_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_briton_sword_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite britons, 60.0, data/sprites/britons_warband_sword_briton_sprite.spr
model_sprite scythia, 60.0, data/sprites/scythia_warband_axe_scythia_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

type warband_spearman_german
skeleton fs_spearman
indiv_range 40
texture germans, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_german_spear.tga
texture scythia, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_warband_scythia_.tga
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_german_spear_high.cas, 8
model_flexi_m data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_german_spear_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_german_spear_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_barb_warband_german_spear_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite germans, 60.0, data/sprites/germans_warband_spearman_german_sprite.spr
model_sprite scythia, 60.0, data/sprites/scythia_warband_axe_scythia_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

but there is a bug with the scythian head now.

yes may be - but i like new scythian head now
also scythian spearmen have small problem with head too

[vlad]

who can check this units ?????

unit_warband_peltast_scythia_high
unit_warband_peltast_scythia_lowest
unit_warband_peltast_scythia_low
unit_warband_peltast_scythia_med

[Lusted]

Hmm, i think thats the model which uses the unit_barb_peltast skins, which are early ones.

[vlad]

I DON'T THINK SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool

type barb_peltast_gaul
skeleton fs_fast_javelinman, fs_fast_swordsman ; throwing spear
indiv_range 40
texture gauls, data/models_unit/textures/unit_geal_warband_peltast_gaul.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_gaul_high.cas, 8
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_gaul_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_gaul_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_gaul_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite gauls, 60.0, data/sprites/gauls_barb_peltast_gaul_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

type barb_peltast_german
skeleton fs_fast_javelinman, fs_fast_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture gauls, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_warband_peltast_germani.tga
texture scythia, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_warband_peltast_germani.tga
texture dacia, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_warband_peltast_germani.tga
texture britons, data/models_unit/textures/unit_barb_warband_peltast_germani.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_german_high.cas, 8
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_german_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_german_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_warband_peltast_german_lowest.cas, max
;model_sprite 60.0, data/sprites/barb_peltast_german_sprite.spr
;model_sprite gauls, 60.0, data/sprites/gauls_barb_peltast_german_sprite.spr
;model_sprite scythia, 60.0, data/sprites/gauls_barb_peltast_german_sprite.spr
;model_sprite dacia, 60.0, data/sprites/gauls_barb_peltast_german_sprite.spr
;model_sprite britons, 60.0, data/sprites/barb_peltast_german_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

[Lusted]

Yeah, i found the greek companion cavalry. Im thinking of adding them in as the generals bodyguard so the greeks, macedonians and seleucids all have them as the late bodyguard. Haven't found a model for the elite archer im afraid.

[WEIRDSHADY]

as i have said many times in many threads that elite archer tga will fit on the greek crew cas, but the weapons are not right, and the model does not import right to give it a bow.

[Lusted]

I have found what looks like a julii skin for gothic cavalry. Im thinking of including them with them tied to a hidden resource so they can only be produced in the general germany area.

[WEIRDSHADY]

yeah the visigoth red_tga or somtin like that, ive used the red shield design from that texture in a couple things. good idea with the hidden resourse. the romans used gothic cavalry alot in the declining years of the empire, at one time i was thinking of useing them as a merc unit but never did.

[Tsarevna]

Originally posted by WEIRDSHADY@Feb 13 2005, 03:52 PM
yeah the visigoth red_tga or somtin like that, ive used the red shield design from that texture in a couple things. good idea with the hidden resourse. the romans used gothic cavalry alot in the declining years of the empire, at one time i was thinking of useing them as a merc unit but never did.

Well since the romans have such good infantry, and the game doesn't approach anywhere near the declining years, i don't think they really should have access to this gothic cav unit. I thought i already posted these guys, but i guess not. Here's the unit in question; the skin on the regular german gothic units.

[WEIRDSHADY]

UNIT_VISIGOTH_CAVALRY_RED.TGA

[Tsarevna]

:blush Well, i was wrong. The british (unorthodox) slingers do actually fit on a model, just not the one i tried (that being the barb_slinger model). They go on the model that carthage uses for its slingers, which for some reason, is labeled as "roman". They seem to work fine, just have a blue line down the face. I can see why CA didn't use these guys, because they don't look celtic enough. Still, they are cute.

Name: British Roman Slingers
Skin Bugs: Small blue line down center of the face, back of tunic shows skin through the shirt for a moment when projectile is released (animation.)

Filename: UNIT_ROMAN_SLINGER_BRITON.TGA.DDS


Blue line on face is visible here


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The unorthodox brit slingers fight a default british slinger


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They prepare to fire


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Skin bug shown on the back during missile release

[Tsarevna]

Name: Julii Slingers
Skin Bugs: Minor. Small red line on forehead, in hair. Same back bug as brit slingers. Sling does not seem to be textured. Line appears on back at a distance, dissapears upclose.

Filename: UNIT_ROMAN_SLINGER_JULII.TGA.DDS


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Back line visible


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Back line has dissapeared

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You can play "where's waldo" here, find the julii peasants! (Hint: my X is on the leg of one of them :p )
Basically this skin is the julii peasant with a shorter tunic (+underwear, shorts or something), an ammo pouch, longer bracers (wristbands) and no cap.


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Julii slingers in action, nice shield detail

[Lusted]

That julii skin i found for the smanites is a proper julii skin, ill have screenshots soon.

[WEIRDSHADY]

The UNIT_EAST_HEAVY_CATAPHRACT.TGA appears to be a scythian one to match the horse.

[Tsarevna]

You can add officers or standard bearers to any unit.

But its actually located in export_descr_unit.txt. You just need to add a line for the officer, like so.
I think it is parthia that just lacks an officer model/skin completly. But they do have the musicians and standard bearers. Light and heavy versions of them. If you ask me, heavy is better-looking. Horse Archer took a screen of one and posted it above. We will include them in the mod of course They seem to look ok, and fight ok, just the musicians dont ever use the instruments, just hold them stupidly, like they were a standard. We need someone to make a new animation for them, well, it would be nice

type east hillmen
dictionary east_hillmen ; Hillmen
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier east_hillmen, 40, 0, 1
officer east_heavy_standard
officer east_heavy_musician
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_sap, hardy
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,0.73
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 3, 4, 2, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat -1
stat_ground 2, 1, 0, -1
stat_mental 4, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 290, 170, 30, 50, 290
ownership eastern

[WEIRDSHADY]

There are macedonian skins for the hoplites, and armoured hoplites. i imagine alot of peaple already know about these, but i dont think id seen them mentioned here.