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    Default US-backed mega-massacre continues in Africa

    I forgot to post this on March 29, but here is the NYT article.

    Here are some excerpts from the article on how the US proxy mission to Somalia is going:

    Most Somalis don’t argue with that. They say Mogadishu is more capriciously violent than it has ever been, with roadside bombs, militias shelling each other across neighborhoods, doctors getting shot in the head and 10-year-olds hurling grenades. Police officials say that many insurgents are actually hungry children paid a few dollars for their work.

    In the shrinking zone that the government controls in southern Mogadishu, a couple of buildings have been splashed with a fresh coat of paint and new immigration forms at the airport ask travelers for their name, purpose of journey and caliber of weapon. Girls wearing bandanas dribble basketballs in a gym. Men sell fish by the seaside. A beat of life goes on. But north Mogadishu is another story.

    “It’s like `Mad Max’ out there,” said Abdi Awaleh Jama, an ambassador at large, pointing from the presidential palace north toward the expanse of huts and ruins stretching into the distance.
    As well as:

    But some of the men believed to be the biggest spoilers are part of the government. To get clan support — and just as crucially — more militiamen, transitional leaders have cut deals with warlords like Mohammed Dheere, now Mogadishu’s mayor, and Abdi Qeybdid, now police chief. These are the same men that the C.I.A. paid in 2006 to fight the Islamists, which backfired because the population turned against them, mostly because of their legacy of terrorizing civilians.

    Hassan, the government soldier, says he has been in one of these warlord militias since he was 8. He toted his first Kalashnikov at age 10. He cannot read or write. He has thin wrists, a delicate face, empty eyes and a wife and two children to feed, which is why he said he routinely sticks people up.

    “We are losing,” he said.
    The US Dep't of State won't even allow the Ethiopian army to be questioned or criticized. So long as they are disturbing any constructive behavior in Somalia by way of Islamic leadership.


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    excellent, all is as planned !

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    I love the title. "US-Backed Mega-Massacre." It rolls off the tongue like poetry.

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    how would you suggest stopping the massacre, invade the country. Wait that sounds familiar.......o ya it sounds a lot like Iraq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    how would you suggest stopping the massacre, invade the country. Wait that sounds familiar.......o ya it sounds a lot like Iraq
    Not really, Iraq was for entirely different reasons. It sounds familiar because it's already been tried 15 years ago.

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    Damn Amerikkkans, constantly supporting genocide! When will we learn?




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    Quote Originally Posted by DickVanDyke View Post
    Damn Amerikkkans, constantly supporting genocide! When will we learn?
    You make the U.S. sound like Nazis, or the Mongolians........or not.....
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    This is marvelously ridiculous and I pity anyone who believes this media bolagna. This is beyond just america hating, this borders (even that's a conservative term) on insane.

    Blaming America for the world's problems is becoming very popular I see. Well, the problems in Africa are not caused by America, they are caused by Africa and it's bloodthirsty warlords.

    And don't give me any of that AIDS stuff either.

    which backfired because the population turned against them, mostly because of their legacy of terrorizing civilians
    pointing at this as evidence that the genocide in africa is "US backed" is insanity. We cannot control the action sof people that choose to randomly change their minds about who they want to fight when they already have been funded.

    Also, tribal warfare is a characteristic of Africa dating back to...well...there is little written history of Africa, but what evidnce that has been unearthed has been mostly related to war and fighting. Look at Zimbabwe, it was a fort for crying out loud.

    Also, European Colonists did the same thing did they not in the twentieth and ninteenth centuries? By arming tribes to fight eachother? Guns for slaves? sound familiar?

    Europe is rank with historical sins, don't you soon forget that.

    In conclusion it is now clearly evident that the NYT is a bunch of made up, unpatriotic, unamerican "news stpries" that are not credible at all. Unfortunately those with anti American sentiments often pick up an article and are enlightened by it.

    What kind of American company could portray America so poorly? Too bad trials of treason are so rare nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    This is marvelously ridiculous and I pity anyone who believes this media bolagna. This is beyond just america hating, this borders (even that's a conservative term) on insane.



    pointing at this as evidence that the genocide in africa is "US backed" is insanity. We cannot control the action sof people that choose to randomly change their minds about who they want to fight when they already have been funded.

    Also, tribal warfare is a characteristic of Africa dating back to...well...there is little written history of Africa, but what evidnce that has been unearthed has been mostly related to war and fighting. Look at Zimbabwe, it was a fort for crying out loud.

    Also, European Colonists did the same thing did they not in the twentieth and ninteenth centuries? By arming tribes to fight eachother? Guns for slaves? sound familiar?

    Europe is rank with historical sins, don't you soon forget that.

    In conclusion it is now clearly evident that the NYT is a bunch of made up, unpatriotic, unamerican "news stpries" that are not credible at all. Unfortunately those with anti American sentiments often pick up an article and are enlightened by it.

    What kind of American company could portray America so poorly? Too bad trials of treason are so rare nowadays.
    I agree, why does everyone always try to make America look like the bad guy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    This is marvelously ridiculous and I pity anyone who believes this media bolagna. This is beyond just america hating, this borders (even that's a conservative term) on insane.

    Blaming America for the world's problems is becoming very popular I see. Well, the problems in Africa are not caused by America, they are caused by Africa and it's bloodthirsty warlords.

    And don't give me any of that AIDS stuff either.



    pointing at this as evidence that the genocide in africa is "US backed" is insanity. We cannot control the action sof people that choose to randomly change their minds about who they want to fight when they already have been funded.

    Also, tribal warfare is a characteristic of Africa dating back to...well...there is little written history of Africa, but what evidnce that has been unearthed has been mostly related to war and fighting. Look at Zimbabwe, it was a fort for crying out loud.

    Also, European Colonists did the same thing did they not in the twentieth and ninteenth centuries? By arming tribes to fight eachother? Guns for slaves? sound familiar?

    Europe is rank with historical sins, don't you soon forget that.

    In conclusion it is now clearly evident that the NYT is a bunch of made up, unpatriotic, unamerican "news stpries" that are not credible at all. Unfortunately those with anti American sentiments often pick up an article and are enlightened by it.

    What kind of American company could portray America so poorly? Too bad trials of treason are so rare nowadays.
    ahhh its too late this is the main stream.They say that 70 or 80 percent are totally against the war these are the same people that posting these articles up and thats our future american generations right there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouse123456 View Post
    ahhh its too late this is the main stream.They say that 70 or 80 percent are totally against the war these are the same people that posting these articles up and thats our future american generations right there too.
    That's sort of democracy, you know.

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    Woo not just A massacre but a MEGA one...wake me up when we start inflicting superduper, splendiferous massacres.

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    [sarcasm]

    I strongly suspect the presence of Mossad in this.

    Also, recently US Presidential hopeful John McCain was seen piloting a US Navy bomber towards Mogadishu. He was there to save US Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, as she and her daughter were running zigzag courses across the airport, while vicious US-backed Ethiopian snipers fired at them, after previously attempting to devour them.

    Later, at a press conference, US Presidential hopeful Barack "Barry" Obama stated that he would meet with Meles Zenawi, when he is elected, and his wife Michelle stated that she was once again proud to be an American.

    Meanwhile, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was heard to comment that, "Yeah, I believe that there's a US-backed mega-massacre going on in Africa", as he sipped Martinis in the hot tub of his $2 million, ten thousand square foot church-financed mansion in Tinley Park, Illinois.

    "After all," he continued, "that's what we do."

    [/sarcasm]


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    Default Re: US-backed mega-massacre continues in Africa

    ^

    6,000 dead, 1,000,000 displaced in less than 18 months.

    Where is the humor? :hmmm:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    ^

    6,000 dead, 1,000,000 displaced in less than 18 months.

    Where is the humor? :hmmm:
    In the thread title.
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    Well it's all the Zionists fault.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    I agree, why does everyone always try to make America look like the bad guy?
    It's the easy way out. When people try to think why a situation is so bad why not blame us? We're internationally involved in everything more or less so it's easy to point at something we did and make it the cause of an issue. Most if it is complete unfounded crao though, such as this article. the NYT is such a crap newspaper, the reporters are just liberal flame hearts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire le Philosophe View Post
    Well it's all the Zionists fault.
    Of course!

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    Zionists run America. Your logic is shattered like so much peanut-brittle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennylz View Post
    Zionists run America. Your logic is shattered like so much peanut-brittle.
    Spoken like a true indoctrinated Muslim.

    Let's speak Lebanese to Lebanese here.

    America is not run by Zionists. Take my word for it. It's just not.

    America is actually run by the Senate, House and President.

    Collectively known as the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of the government. I thought this was common knowledge.

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    Axeman,

    The AU is not doing anything in Somalia, their force is not armored and is only working as bodyguards for the transitional government. Only Ethiopia is armed in Somalia and at war.

    All that needs to happen is -- Ethiopia withdraws, and allow the Shabaab (Islamic Courts militia wing) to devour the weak and corrupt government (full of warlords). Forget the Shabaab, the civilians would dismantle the TFG if given the chance.

    But, from what I heard from a friend of mine who worked for the UN High Commission on Refugees in Nairobi, the US has been trying for years (WAY before the Islamists appeared) to make Somalia part of Ethiopia. It will prevent an Islamic state in the Horn (nightmare for the West) as well as keeping Somalia out of the news and in the dark. Not a bad idea, actually. Evil, but smart. Eastern Ethiopia is entirely inhabited by Somalis, so it wouldn't be much of a hassle to incorporate the rest of sovereign Somali territories into modern Ethiopia. Its just what I heard and what I am finding to be closer to reality every day.
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