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    So I captured Thapsus, but can't recruit ANY infantry. According to building tree, I never will be able to. Only equities and velities are accessible. I believe it's not a surprise to many of you, but can someone explain how this works?

    I mean sure, no every legion available in every settlement, but not being able to recruit stupid militias is just weird.
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    Try training militias in Carthage and moving them to Thapsus.


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    Well, that's what I do (but I import them from Sicily, since Carthage is still Carthaginian), but that's not the point, and you know that

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    Thapsus must be outside the Roman AOR for any of the pre-marian legions then.
    Not much can be done about that - unless you edit the files yourself to include it.
    The line has to be drawn somewhere as to where Rome (or any faction) can recruit its main units, so as to avoid the ahistorical system in vanilla where any troops can be recruited anywhere.
    After the reforms you should have access to Auxilia in Thapsus.
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    That's what I meant. I didn't expect any fancy Roman units, anything useful (like auxilia) would be fine. So reforms, huh? That's what I was afraid of...

    Thanks.

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    Have you actually looked at which units you can build? In every settlement you have access to light infantry when playing as Rome. If you don't are you sure you are playing 1.5a?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquidSK View Post
    Have you actually looked at which units you can build? In every settlement you have access to light infantry when playing as Rome. If you don't are you sure you are playing 1.5a?
    I'm currently at work, but I am quite sure I'm playing 1.5a (I downloaded it around 3w ago). And yes, I have looked at whatever different barracks in Thapsus (would) provide. And they provide nothing, except some general unit, I believe.

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    It would be fine if RS had something along the lines of EB Auxilia recruiting system which allows to build a lot of AOR units, many of them belonging to the roster of other factions, depending on the level of Auxilia training facilities you build. Not very unrealistic, merely for being in EB.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

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    EB isn't the end all be all of mods you know. It's not like it's the standard all mods must attain. I think they confuse detail and accuracy.


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    Well yes but I'm not suggesting turning RS to an obsession towards detail. Just thought this was a nice feature to be included for gameplay.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire le Philosophe View Post
    Well yes but I'm not suggesting turning RS to an obsession towards detail. Just thought this was a nice feature to be included for gameplay.
    It is a pretty complicated system which involves heavy scripting (I think) and will probably not be included in RS. You will love the auxiliary units we are working on now at the moment. Soon, Rome will have access to far more auxiliary units they have now, and these generic 'light infantry' units will be all but gone.

    For example, Rome will have access to all of Armenia's units, making that area strategically important for control of the Middle East. That's just one new strategic opportunity that RS2 will bring to the table...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drtad View Post
    It is a pretty complicated system which involves heavy scripting (I think) and will probably not be included in RS. You will love the auxiliary units we are working on now at the moment. Soon, Rome will have access to far more auxiliary units they have now, and these generic 'light infantry' units will be all but gone.

    For example, Rome will have access to all of Armenia's units, making that area strategically important for control of the Middle East. That's just one new strategic opportunity that RS2 will bring to the table...
    Well maybe you could have more than just extra units for Rome. Say, an AOR system for x units to all factions that build a certain level of barracks. So Germania, for example, would be able to recruit HA in conquered Scythia.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire le Philosophe View Post
    Well maybe you could have more than just extra units for Rome. Say, an AOR system for x units to all factions that build a certain level of barracks. So Germania, for example, would be able to recruit HA in conquered Scythia.
    Well, sure. There will of course be AOR units from every culture that all factions will be able to recruit once they have built up enough in the conquered provinces of said culture/ethnicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drtad View Post
    Well, sure. There will of course be AOR units from every culture that all factions will be able to recruit once they have built up enough in the conquered provinces of said culture/ethnicity.
    I gladly await for RS2! With new hardware, of course.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Default Re: Troops available in conquered lands

    Not what the barracks provide, but which units are actually available for recruitment, since the auxillia infantry are not linked to the barracks.
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