Human rights, just another political tool?

[ray243]

Well...I'm all for humans rights, and support that ideas. However, I problem I find annoying is, US have a tendency to scream human rights all almost any country that is well able to challenge them (military,econmically or ideaology). For those countries that is their err...allies (like south vietnam), they intend to IGNORE them.

As long the country can aid or be in the interest of the major country, US for example, any mention of human rights tends to be ignored. When the country in name does not suit the US ideaology of, the politicians will start to use human rights as a excuse.

It seem that US yelling humans right is more of a diplomatic card, rather than really supporting the whole idea.

Even in USA, human rights has been abused back in the past, like the US treatment of blacks until the end of ww2. And the same goes to US treatment in regards to captured scientist from Nazi germany and Japan after world war 2.

Nevermind if they use humans and POW as experiments, as long as your research can aid us, we'll let you go unpunished.

Take Iraq as another example, prior to the invasion of Iraq, Iraq is better off under saddam as compared to letting the americans run it and once america leaves Iraq, I think Iraq is going through a real bloody civil war.

It's a stupid thing is people can scream human rights while they don't really carry out actions to really resolve the issue. Sometimes, it's better to look at the bigger picture than to look at a smaller picture.

For example, removing saddam from the throne does not mean all the human rights issue will be solved.

So why should americans thinks that it has a very high handed moral position?

And isn't screaming about human rights just another political tool, instead of well REALLY helping humanity as a whole?

Is there any american that thinks that people (and politicians) that started screaming about human rights are really trying to help those people?

[ray243]

wrong section, can a mod move it to the political academy forums?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Let me guess. You're Chinese.

[bushbush]

Let me guess. You're Chinese.

well, I think he has a valid point. Some countries while doing themselves and still criticize other nations on human rights....i taste hypocrisy....

[ray243]

Let me guess. You're Chinese.

LOL, try again. And I'm not talking about freedom of speech.

I'm talking about human rights being a simple polticial tool instead of simply being a freedom of speech.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Good one Ferrets!


BTW I finally placed your avatar Dean Wormer!

[removeduser_487563287433]

The United States is not imune from criticism. Human rights groups and close allies such as the United Kingdom have really strongly criticised the US's continual use of torture and the death penalty.

[bushbush]

The United States is not imune from criticism. Human rights groups and close allies such as the United Kingdom have really strongly criticised the US's continual use of torture and the death penalty.

well, I am not saying US and other countries got no right to criticize China,

the abuse in those countries compare to the ones in China are really minimal.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Yes it does. It's called freedom of speech. I can understand why the Chinese may find the concept difficult.

And precisely what countries compare favourably to China in terms of human rights?

[Kiljan Arslan]

Saudi Arabia, North korea, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Zaire, Myanmar, and I think Equilateral Guinea.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Saudi Arabia, North korea, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Zaire, Myanmar, and I think Equilateral Guinea.

Equilateral Guinea?

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I think you mean Equatorial Guinea

[Kiljan Arslan]

Equilateral Guinea?

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I think you mean Equatorial Guinea

Yes Equatorial Guinea.

Damn it I forgot Libya, and Cuba.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Several of which are ruled by regimes proped up entirely by... China.

[bushbush]

Several of which are ruled by regimes proped up entirely by... China.

Saudi is supported by China?

i thought America...LOL. correct me if i am wrong.

Yes it does. It's called freedom of speech. I can understand why the Chinese may find the concept difficult.

well, it's not hard to understand that, since freedom of speech is available in the private sphere in China anyways.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Saudi is supported by China?

i thought America...LOL. correct me if i am wrong.

I didn't say it was.

well, it's not hard to understand that, since freedom of speech is available in the private sphere in China anyways.

"Free Tibet"?

And the US have a moral high ground now?

I do believe that the US find it perfectly acceptable to aid countries with a bad human rights record.

For example, the Iraq-Iran war.

And vietnam war for example.

I don't think the US have a better moral high ground as well you know.

The United States in the field of human rights is exceptionally better than China.

[bushbush]

"Free Tibet"?

sure, within the private sphere, they can say what the hell they wanna say. I ve seen people with pictures of Dalai Lama in their rooms...LOL.

[removeduser_487563287433]

sure, within the private sphere, they can say what the hell they wanna say. I ve seen people with pictures of Dalai Lama in their rooms...LOL.

You'll get sent to prison for making a Tibetan Flag, or, in fact, being present when a Tibetan Flag is being made.

So it can be justified that US is REALLY doing everything in the interest of human rights, and NOT about political interest?

Wow...that's something new...

America itself is founded on certain human rights, including freedom of speech, press and person that simply do not exist in other countries.

[Kiljan Arslan]

i thought America...LOL. correct me if i am wrong.

Something I wish my nation ended every day.

Bushbush what would happen if someone burned a flag of china in china?

[bushbush]

Something I wish my nation ended every day.

why? Saudis are the "we-are-richer-than-god" middle-east country..not the "death-to-America" ones.

good to be friends with them, better than being buddies with Iran.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Zimbabwe, Sudan and Myanmar. Zaire just is to big for its own good.