Civil Rebelllion

**William1976** · April 05, 2008, 02:43 PM

How do you get civil rebellions to occur? I have had 2 generals/family members with 0 loyalty and the trait unleashed ambition for over 30 turns and they have not rebelled. Is there a trigger to make them rebel more? I'm not saying I want it to happen all the time, but I'm playing an Irish campaign and I don't attack, my rep is very trustworthy and I have many alliances, I was wondering to spice things up instead of making war with another country to get come civil war going, but no one will and I would think a general with no loyalty and the unleashed ambition trait would want to rebel.

Will

**Roboute Guilliman** · April 05, 2008, 02:54 PM

when i had a city going rebel, i had a family member with 0 loyalty and the 'you are not my king' thing. but i think my faction leader had 0 authority aswell. dont know if this has anything to do with the other.

**DMG90** · April 05, 2008, 03:00 PM

I believe if your faction leader has a lot of authority, it makes it harder to rebel.

**Roboute Guilliman** · April 05, 2008, 03:03 PM

oh but somthing i did witness is that if your faction leader dies, all the 'you are not my king' people do become loyal again

**DMG90** · April 05, 2008, 03:07 PM

Well yeah... these are the ages when peoples and lands are tied together by lords not nations.

**obbob** · April 07, 2008, 12:47 AM

just completely abandon a city (that was not taken from another faction) and it will rebel.

**IceBeast** · April 07, 2008, 01:17 AM

You can also try sending em out with a small or no army, and they'll probably rebel right away. Garrisons make em more squeamish I think.

**spanish_emperor** · April 07, 2008, 01:23 AM

tax them until you squeeze every penny out of them, leave a small garrison and infest the city with plague.

then when you conquer exterminate them for rebelling

**stefano89** · April 07, 2008, 05:26 PM

That's very nice when it happens, just makes me think, NO ONE, BUT NO ONE BETRAYS ME! Thou shalt die for not obbeying thy rules!

**Nightbringer** · April 07, 2008, 08:55 PM

I think plague actually increases public order because there are less citizens.

idk for sure though

**Caesar Clivus** · April 07, 2008, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

I think plague actually increases public order because there are less citizens.

idk for sure though

Once the plague has passed, yes because there are less citizens than there were before, public order will increase a bit. See, the black death wasn't as bad as history books say!

**Nightbringer** · April 07, 2008, 11:00 PM

hey caesar, good to see you're still here to

**Caesar Clivus** · April 08, 2008, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

hey caesar, good to see you're still here to

Hehe good to see you Nightbringer. Yeah I've been away for a bit, mostly for RL reasons but I cant stay away from Total War...and Stainless Steel...for too long. My love of history keeps drawing me back in. That and reading War and Peace has got me wanting to fight huge historical battles again

**scivian** · May 08, 2008, 11:49 AM

Anyone know how my generals get the trait "unleashed ambition and how to get rid of it?"

**Quark** · May 08, 2008, 11:59 AM

scivian
Well I could just answer Yes, but the trait is called Far_Loyalty and its gained by generals when they are far away or if the king is not near his capital. It can also be gained from taking over tempting targets like Jersualem, where he may be tempted to become his own king. Move them closer to the capital, as Near_Loyalty cancels, or get a new king.