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    Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    A gang of British Muslims planned to blow up seven planes within hours in the biggest terrorist atrocity since 9/11, a court heard yesterday.

    Two thousand passengers would have died in the plot by eight fanatics working "in the name of Islam", the jury was told.

    It could have involved up to 18 suicide bombers. And they were almost ready to strike.

    The jets they targeted would all have been bound from Heathrow to cities in the U.S. and Canada, it was claimed.


    Accused: Waheed Zaman, 23 and Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27

    Once the first had exploded the authorities would have had to watch, powerless, as the six others were downed.

    Plastic soft-drink bottles were to be the murder weapon - filled with explosive and connected to a detonator.

    The alleged plot led to a ban on liquid containers bigger than 100ml which is still in force at UK airports.

    Had it been successful, the death toll would have far eclipsed the 52 killed on July 7, 2005, when four suicide bombers detonated their rucksacks on the London transport system.

    And if the conspirators chose to blow themselves up over land, the number of casualties in the air and on the ground could have exceeded the Twin Towers attacks in which nearly 3,000 died.


    Accused: Tanvir Hussain, 27, and Arafat Khan, 26


    Accused: Ibrahim Savant:, 27, and Assad Sarwar, 27
    Yesterday eight men went on trial at Woolwich Crown Court in South-East London accused of conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to commit an act of violence likely to endanger the safety of an aircraft.

    Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, said: "What these men intended was a violent and deadly statement of intent which would have a truly global impact.

    "These men were actively engaged in a deadly plan designed to bring about what would have been, had they been successful, a civilian death toll from an act of terrorism on an almost unprecedented scale.

    "If each of these aircraft was successfully blown up the potential for loss of life was indeed considerable.

    "And there would be little if any chance of saving any of them from their impending disaster.

    "For when the mid-flight explosions began the authorities would be unable to prevent the other flights from meeting a similar fate as they would already be in mid air and carrying their deadly cargo."

    He described the defendants as having the "cold-eyed certainty of the fanatic".


    A court sketch shows the eight suspects yesterday

    The alleged plot was foiled on August 9, 2006 when two of the key gang members - Abdulla Ahmed Ali and Assad Sarwar - were arrested by police in a town hall car park in Walthamstow, East London following several months of surveillance.

    A series of arrests followed including that of Mohammed Gulzar, 26, the alleged third key member of the plot, and led to chaos, cancellation and delays at airports across the UK as a huge security crackdown swung into operation.

    The court heard that at the time of the arrests, the bombers were "almost ready to put their plot into practice".


    Accused: Umar Islam, 29, and Mohammed Gulzar, 26

    Police found a USB computer memory stick in Ali's pocket which held information on flight timetables and security advice on restricted items for hand luggage and other information about Heathrow Airport.

    All the flight details saved on the stick were for outbound flights only and not return trips.

    It listed United Airlines, Air Canada and American Airlines flights to Toronto, Montreal, San Francisco, Washington and New York, all leaving from Terminal 3 at Heathrow.

    The planes targeted were 777, 767 and 763 jets which could carry between 241 and 285 passengers. All the scheduled flights left Heathrow within little more than two and a half hours of each other between 2.15pm and 4.50pm.


    Terror: Prosecutors said the alleged plot would have targeted seven flights operated by (left to right) American Airlines, United Airlines and Air Canada

    The plotters' main interest was with flights leaving between August and October 2006.

    Ali, 27, married with a young son, also had a pocket notebook in which a "blueprint" for making the bombs and carrying out the plot was written.

    Plastic Oasis and Lucozade bottles were to be used by the plotters to make their liquid bombs.

    A hypodermic syringe would be inserted into the base to draw out the drink and the bomb mixture would be injected in its place.

    A homemade detonator called hexamethylene triperoxide and also known as HMTD would be made from a mixture of household and commercial ingredients and disguised in AA batteries.

    Bulbs and wires would connect the bomb mixture with disposable cameras to trigger a charge to set it off.

    Of Ali and Sarwar, Mr Wright said: "They shared a common interest.

    "It was an interest in which they were actively engaged at the time of their arrest, an interest that involved inflicting heavy casualties upon an unwitting civilian population, all in the name of Islam.

    "The means by which they intended to inflict heavy casualties upon ordinary civilians was by the carrying out of a series of coordinated and deadly explosions.

    "These men were, we say, indifferent to the carnage that was likely to ensue if their plans were successful.

    "To them, the identities of their victims was a complete irrelevance. It is the prosecution case that they intended to cause a series of explosions on board a selected number of transatlantic passenger aircraft.

    "The devices were to be smuggled on to the aircraft and detonated in flight by a suicide bomber, a bomber prepared to lose his or her life in this way.

    "Inevitably, such an event would also have fatal consequences for the various passengers and crew who happened, quite by chance, to be flying to North America on the day selected by them to commit this atrocity."

    Mr Wright said the conspirators plotted to detonate seven bombs on planes leaving from Terminal 3 at Heathrow but that the "extent of their ambitions" went wider.

    "A coordinated strike upon the aircraft engaged in these seven flights by the onboard detonation of improvised explosive devices was capable, we say, of producing quite catastrophic consequences for passengers, crew and, indeed, anyone who happened to be in the path of a stricken or disintegrating aircraft, if it plummeted to earth over a populated part of northern Europe or North America.

    "Terrifying, we say, though this concept alone may be it is the prosecution case that the conspirators did not confine themselves and did not confine their ambitions merely to the coordinated destruction in mid-flight of these seven aircraft.

    "In conversation between two of the main participants, reference was made to 'different terminals', and as many as 18 suicide bombers being involved."

    The accused are Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27, Waheed Zaman, 23, Arafat Waheed Khan, 26, all from Walthamstow, East London, Ibrahim Savant, 27, from Stoke Newington, North London, Mohammed Gulzar, 26, from Barking, East London, Assad Sarwar, 27, from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Tanvir Hussain, 27, from Leyton, East London and Umar Islam, 29, from Plaistow, East London.

    All deny the charges. The case continues.


    'Condoms and porn' in luggage


    A bomb plot "blueprint" scrawled in a diary was seized by police from one of the alleged masterminds, the jury heard.

    It set out in chilling detail how mid-air carnage was to be achieved using everyday objects.

    And it revealed that the fanatics hoped to hoodwink airport security officers by putting pornographic magazines and condoms in their hand luggage to indicate that they could not be Muslim zealots, the court was told.

    Anti-terror police were said to have found the recipe for mass murder in an address book diary belonging to Abdulla Ahmed Ali, one of the alleged ringleaders of the plot.

    It revealed plans for the gang to hold a summit five days before their deadly mission, the court heard.

    Scribbles seemed to suggest that the gang would each take two bottles of their liquid bombs through security in case one was taken off them.

    Ali wrote: "One drink use, other keep in pocket, maybe will not get through."

    There were also rambling references to bomb ingredients and how to mix them.

    Jury members were shown pages from the diary in which Ali apparently wrote about disguising hydrogen peroxide ('HP') with food dye to make it look like Lucozade.

    He wrote: "Lucozade red 1.5 drops", and "Check time taken to dilute in HP".

    In an apparent reference to a detonator, Ali allegedly wrote in his diary: "Decide on which battery to use for D, small is best", and "Keys and chewing gum on the D in the electronic device."

    Elsewhere, seemingly planning a final meeting with his co-conspirators, he wrote: "Select date, five days B4. All link up."

    The diary apparently tells how security staff would be fooled by "dirty mags" and condoms in the gang's hand luggage, the court heard.

    A scrawl in Ali's diary said simply: "Prepare dirty mag to distract, condom."

    Prosecutor Peter Wright QC said Ali "chose to lie" and said he could not remember when police asked him about the significance of these diary entries.

    The prosecutor dubbed the entries a "blueprint" of clear significance to the plot and contained details of how it was to be carried out.

    They included lists of various items which could be carried on aircraft without arousing too much attention.

    From soft drinks to deadly explosives

    The bottles and disposable camera batteries, the jury heard.

    Liquid explosives disguised with food colouring and mouthwash would be smuggled past security and on to the flights.

    There they would be hooked up to homemade detonators powered by tiny camera batteries and set off to cause mid-air carnage, the court heard.

    After the alleged plot was uncovered, in August 2006, the authorities banned passengers from carrying most liquids on board aircraft.

    The main ingredient of the homemade bombs was said to be hydrogen peroxide, commonly used as hair bleach and easily available on the high street, mixed with other chemicals which the Daily Mail is not naming.

    The plan was to drill small holes in the bottom of 500ml plastic bottles of Oasis and Lucozade and pour away the drinks, the jury heard.

    Then the conspirators would use a syringe to inject the ready-mixed explosive liquid into the bottles. Prosecutor Peter Wright QC said the hole would be closed with glue to give the appearance of a "factory sealed" bottle.

    Once on board the aircraft, the improvised bombs would be hooked up to a detonator disguised as a standard AA 1.5-volt battery, containing a substance known as HMTD - produced from a mixture of household and commercial ingredients which are freely available.

    The detonator would be ignited using metal wire, a small bulb or the flash from a disposal camera, said Mr Wright.

    He said improvised bombs using similar ingredients had been used in other terrorist attacks.
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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    Umar Islam ? That's a wierd name.

    The thing I don't understand is why you are calling them British.
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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    Quote Originally Posted by Azael33 View Post
    Umar Islam ? That's a wierd name.

    The thing I don't understand is why you are calling them British.

    i am guessing it means these men where british citizens.

    anyway, atlest they where caught, bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azael33 View Post
    Umar Islam ? That's a wierd name.

    The thing I don't understand is why you are calling them British.
    Since they were British?
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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    Awesome Vamp, but you forgot to add a question for discussion. How about:

    Do you think it is good these terrorists were stopped?

    My answer: erm...yes?

    I'm now gonna play the game of matching the faces in the cartoon with the real ones. I'll post my guesses later.




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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    What a load of horsepucky.

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    Number 1 and 6 cleary smoked a joint before being photographed, that are some ugly MTF'ers, no wonder they hate the world so much...

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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    One guy got "My Name is Earl"ed -

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    why do terrorists always look like they must have just been caught while playing world of warcraft for 48 hours.

    Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_Since_1985 View Post
    Number 1 and 6 cleary smoked a joint before being photographed, that are some ugly MTF'ers, no wonder they hate the world so much...
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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    Man, British intelligence has been making terrorist plots their prisonyard-**** over the past few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Man, British intelligence has been making terrorist plots their prisonyard-**** over the past few years.
    cos we're the best, dont contest, lest you be put to the test, we'll shake your nest, bra now you rest. Aiee. You got served.




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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    How can Arabs and Africans that want to destroy Britain and create an Islamic state can be considered to British - and I am talking BEYOND citiznship - ?
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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    Quote Originally Posted by Azael33 View Post
    How can Arabs and Africans that want to destroy Britain and create an Islamic state can be considered to British - and I am talking BEYOND citiznship - ?
    they have british citizenship, therefor legally they are british.

    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    It's on. Race war!

    Seriously: they've really been laying the pipe to the hadjis for awhile now. Which kind of makes me wonder why they have been so much more active than our guys in the US. I would think it would be the other way around considering we have 5 times the population.

    Makes you wonder why there are apparently so many more cases in the UK.
    well there are two factors to consider.

    1. firstly, it is belived that US muslims are better intergrated into US society then british muslims are into british society. so i guess they are less likly to do it in the states as they feel the states is there home.

    2. its is quite possible that they see britain as an easyer target. they see america as a big fortress and so they dont even try it.
    Last edited by LoZz; April 04, 2008 at 09:34 AM.

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    So much goes on behind the scenes, it could have very well been a tip from an obscure Muslim country with an equally obscure intelligence service.

    Point is, its very rare that the country in which the plot is fostered is actually home to the intelligence service that stumbles upon the plot. The whole global intelligence network is amazing. The West owes both Israels Mossad, and Jordan's intel service a ton. Without those two countries sharing intel in such a manner both the CIA and MI6 would be rendered almost useless.

    Even back in the day with the IRA, Mossad was invaluable.

    Hexamethylene Triperoxide is so damn easy to make, and so incredibly unstable it makes even the most veteran EOD techs nervous. While I was in Afghanistan we were told to look out for the stuff as the Taliban was in panic mode, and were looking to booby trap their former compounds, as they were essentially in full retreat. We were told to just blow any structure we found it in as its too unstable to mess with. In the end they couldn't get their hands on enough drain cleaner to make enough of the stuff.

    It takes a degree of knowledge to whip up a batch without literally blowing yourself up.
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    Default Re: Eight british muslims planned to bomb seven transatlantic airliners

    Quote Originally Posted by LoZz View Post
    they have british citizenship, therefor legally they are british.



    well there are two factors to consider.

    1. firstly, it is belived that US muslims are better intergrated into US society then british muslims are into british society. so i guess they are less likly to do it in the states as they feel the states is there home.

    2. its is quite possible that they see britain as an easyer target. they see america as a big fortress and so they dont even try it.
    i guess there not as integrated in britain cos thers that hint of racism in the air still i dont trust any middle eastern they think they can get away with anything wen u accuse em of stuff the play the packie card an say your being racist it happens all the god dam time i think they should be moved back to iraq or were ever the hell they come from
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo#1 View Post
    f the play the packie card an say your being racist
    do you know the the word "packie" is a racist term?

    actually, nevermind.




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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo#1 View Post
    i guess there not as integrated in britain cos thers that hint of racism in the air still i dont trust any middle eastern they think they can get away with anything wen u accuse em of stuff the play the packie card an say your being racist it happens all the god dam time i think they should be moved back to iraq or were ever the hell they come from
    Wow, 2 posts and you've already said about the most ignorant piece of drivel on these forums that I've seen in a while. Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azael33 View Post
    How can Arabs and Africans that want to destroy Britain and create an Islamic state can be considered to British - and I am talking BEYOND citiznship - ?
    Last time I looked Walthamstow and Leyton were in England, mind you there are those who consider Leyton part of the Orient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azael33 View Post
    How can Arabs and Africans that want to destroy Britain and create an Islamic state can be considered to British - and I am talking BEYOND citiznship - ?
    If you have an official paper that states you are a citizen of Britain than you are a British. Whether you are a loyal citizen of Britain or not is a different matter.

    Not wanting to destroy the country you live in will be a good start.
    They dont wanna destroy their country. They merely want to change it into a form which suits their vision. Just like Lenin did not intend to destroy Russia.
    Last edited by jankren; April 04, 2008 at 08:27 PM.


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