Irelands Taoiseach resigns.

[King Edward III]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7326343.stm

Thoughts? :hm:

[finneys13]

About time tbh, his position has been untenable for a while because of the tribunal, which was proving more and more of his statements wrong.

He will have a good legacy, I hate the party really, not really him. If these tribunals continue though, he may be a bit of a new Haughey. But remember a lot of the policies that helped the economy and that FF claim were actually introduced during Bruton's period.

Cowen is a shoe-in, anybody standing against him (Hanifan maybe?) would lose badly and be made a backbencher before being dropped in the next election.

[Cliomhdubh]

ahh bertie what would ireland do without you his economic policies as a minister for finance are said to be crucial in the begining of the celtic tiger
dobut it will have any efect on anything other than irish politics (not including the north)

About time tbh, his position has been untenable for a while because of the tribunal, which was proving more and more of his statements wrong.

oh my god a lying corrupt politician who have thought it

show me one honest one and ill show you a dog baby , half dog half baby

[finneys13]

When a politician is caught out badly though, he should just resign, not carry on and make a mockery of your legacy.

You do realise the majority of decisions that created the Celtic Tiger were made when Haughey and Dukes worked together in the 80s, when Bertie was only Minister for Labour, and then under Bruton's government?

FF and Bertie have just reaped the dividends.

[LoZz]

is he not as popular as i thought he was?

[finneys13]

As a person he is still popular, he is very affable.

He has been before a tribunal recently though, and last week, certain monies that he received were proved to be another currency to what he said. He has been losing the trust of his supporters.

[Cliomhdubh]

http://www.recruitireland.com/job/?jobID=10012942
ha ha just saw this online

[finneys13]

Fantastic

[Каие]

I think he summed himself up really, never did wrong to anyone at least to the best of my knowledge he hasn;t.

[Cliomhdubh]

think his best legacey will be the good friday agreement

[finneys13]

Remember he was only in power for less than one year when it has signed, Bruton, Reynolds and Haughey did all the ground work.

[King Edward III]

On a side note, if anyone watched Tony Blairs tribute to him, he looks like his lost weight.

[Cliomhdubh]

Remember he was only in power for less than one year when it has signed, Bruton, Reynolds and Haughey did all the ground work.

i think you should watch the tv every member involved across of the political divide paid tribute to his part in the peace process
i can see by your posts your a bit of a blue shirt

[finneys13]

Of course they would say that on the day he announces his resignation. And he did well getting it signed, but it should be keep in prospective.

Don't you agree that he was only in power for less than a year before it was signed, so that it was Bruton, Reynolds and Haughey that did all the ground work for him?

i can see by your posts your a bit of a blue shirt

No, not really, floating voter that just stated facts instead of party bias.

[Cliomhdubh]

Of course they would say that on the day he announces his resignation. And he did well getting it signed, but it should be keep in prospective.

Don't you agree that he was only in power for less than a year before it was signed, so that it was Bruton, Reynolds and Haughey that did all the ground work for him?

no you see the fact was that beritie was a low level minister for much of his political carrer therefore its far more likely that he was laying the groundwork
it was bertie who was the labour minister during the late 80's and while Haughey, Albert Reynolds and Ray MacSharry where given the majority of the credit at the time it was bertie who was putting in the man hours
it was also bertie who advocated a coalition with the pds in the early 90's
and was instrumental in holding the political alliance together in the early years and he was also the minister for finance during the first few years of the 90's and later it was bertie who was involved in the good friday agreement although it was indeed signed only a year after he came to power much of the negoitating was done in this year

[finneys13]

Why would Bertie, a Minister for Labour, have anything to do with the peace process?

For all his faults, it was Haughey who personally started the peace process, via Alec Reid and John Hume. It was Haughey's personal gig, not a Minister for Labour.

Then Bertie was in finance, so nothing to do with NI, and then it was the Rainbow Coalition. I give Bertie credit, just keep it in prospective.

Bertie advocated a coalition with the PDs in the early 90's. So what? He showed a political mind.

[Cúchulainn]

Well lets see what Bertie leaves us with.

A slowing economy, a flawed Health service and a Tunnel for truck drives, who don't use it.

Well sets see what Cowen can do.


To be honest I didn't think this was news.

It Irish news.

The news in the mudpit is normally British and American, because we care about your lives.

I just say it on Wikipedia, which is weird.

Why do any of you care?

[Cliomhdubh]

A slowing economy, a flawed Health service and a Tunnel for truck drives, who don't use it.

i dont think bertie can really be blamed on the down turn in the economy its not really a localised event
id personally blame the health service on jabba the harney
the port tunnel well that to do with the ppl who buit it seing as it was subcontracted

To be honest I didn't think this was news.

It Irish news.

The news in the mudpit is normally British and American, because we care about your lives.

orosh new os just as important to irish people personally i rarely give a crap what americans or british do unless it affects the rest of the world

Why would Bertie, a Minister for Labour, have anything to do with the peace process?

actually he was chief whip and then taniste during the early peace process and ministers often have other duties besides their given department it had long been recognised he was haugheys succesor much like cowen has been recognised as berties

[finneys13]

actually he was chief whip and then taniste during the early peace process and ministers often have other duties besides their given department it had long been recognised he was haugheys succesor much like cowen has been recognised as berties

Reynolds was Haughey's successor? Bertie was seen as a long term eventual leader, maybe like Mary Coughlan today, not Cowen.

He was Taniste under Reynolds for a few days only when Labour left the coalition, never under Haughey.

Get your facts right before you talk.

To be called a 'Blue Shirt' is to called a Fine Gael supporter, usually by a Fianna Fáil supporter. Originally the Blue Shirts were our half-hearted attempt of doing fascism. Never took off though.

[Каие]

Whats a blue shirt?