Macedonian Navy Controversy Thread (Version 1.0)

[Garbarsardar]

I believe that Greek navy can take the "Makedonian" navy at any time. Discuss possible scenarios like:

Port blockades
Battle in the open seas
Blockade of navy lanes
Naval interdiction
Attacks on merchant ships


Honestly, what do you think?

[finneys13]

In normal countries, April Fool's ends at noon.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

I think that main battlefield will be the Ohrid lake.
While Greece would have overwhelming advantage at open sea. The navy of Ohrid stands a good chance in her home field.
While Greeks would have to transfer their naval power by land, they would be volnurable to Attack (much like Darius and Xerxes were) by land on their convoys. Meanwhile, the Ohrid navy will be waiting in full battle order for those Greek ships that would manage to deploy.
Then they would try to stage some kind of clever tactics to outwit the Greeks. If there is a reincarnated Themistocles amongst them (and maybe there is seeing how "they're all Greek") they will possably win the battle and as a reward they would get the right to name their country Republic of Athens, in honor of this newborn Themistocles guy who had won them the Orhid battle.
And the Greeks would be compelled to change the name of their capital to Pella and rename their country - Kingdom of Macedonia!

However, I bet on a different outcome. In a midst of the Ohrid battle, both confronted armies get sneak attacked from the rear by the
Glorious Illyrian Navy From Back in Time commanded by their queen Teuta!
Teuta kicks both of their and they are one step away from capitulating! But then Themistocles gets a bright idea!
Themistocles: "Lets call the Serbs, did you know they still have a maritime navy within their army structure even though Serbia has no access to open sea!?! The Serb seamen march in, bend over Teuta and kick her back trough the time portal.
And they all lived happill....... whait, who's this!?!?!?
:"You stupid mtgffffckkksr!!!!! You dare kick my girlfriends !?!?!
Now I'm gonna bomb you all back to the stonage, you barbaric......!!!!!"
:"Run for the hillsch my children!!... We'll group there and wait for the Russians!!!"

[Giorgos]

@Garbarsardar: LOL+rep

[Maced0n]

But we transform all of our naval ships to space ships ... and we have worp technology

We already have our Star Wars scenario planed

[MathiasOfAthens]

Why did all the Greek characters look Turkish even though Turks don't even act like that.

Since you brought that video up im going point out the fact that your country never controlled the Thessalonike region, unless you consider the Serbian invaders who ruthlessley picked off parts of the Romanoi Empire while it was fighting off the Seljuk Turks. You guys are the invaders not the Greeks. Greeks can preach to more than 1000 years of continuous rule over the Thessalonike region and of the Balkans as well. they want Constantinople back as well but you don't see so much about that as you do about your claims to Northern Greece.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

Since you brought that video up im going point out the fact that your country never controlled the Thessalonike region, unless you consider the Serbian invaders who ruthlessley picked off parts of the Romanoi Empire while it was fighting off the Seljuk Turks.

Mathias, have a fudgesicle!
Let's focus on the 21st cent. when both Greeks and the Slav Macedonians shamelessly sided with the new Norman invaders and betraying the Orthodoxy, did next to nothing (as respective states - the people did the best they could to help us during 1999.) to prevent the Arnauts from growing stronger and stronger. You don't switch sides soon enough, "the bear will start dancing in front of your door" soon enough - just like the Ottomans eventually conquered the Serbs!

[MathiasOfAthens]

Im I didn't quite follow Palman Im prob a bit rusty on the recent Greek history but I know the bear refers to the Russians. I know when the Turks conquered the Serbs, couple years after the fall of Constantinople or even a little before since Turkish Incursions into Macedonia and Thrace occured decaded preceding 1453. But your saying there were Norman invaders in the 21st cent clarify please.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

Im I didn't quite follow Palman Im prob a bit rusty on the recent Greek history but I know the bear refers to the Russians. I know when the Turks conquered the Serbs, couple years after the fall of Constantinople or even a little before since Turkish Incursions into Macedonia and Thrace occured decaded preceding 1453. But your saying there were Norman invaders in the 21st cent clarify please.

Norman invaders = the Anglo/Saxon lead NATO-AXIS
"the bear" = the Greater Albanian paramilitaries (backed by NATO-AXIS)

[MathiasOfAthens]

Ok so your talking bout the breakup of Yugoslavia(n) 'Empire' and the Kosovoan War. Should have just said so. Now can you tell me again what happen when the Maks and the Greeks sided with Nato and what about the Orthodox.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

Ok so your talking bout the breakup of Yugoslavia(n) 'Empire' and the Kosovoan War. Should have just said so. Now can you tell me again what happen when the Maks and the Greeks sided with Nato and what about the Orthodox.

Well, the Orthodox Serbs get bombed like peasants and Greece, a member of the enemy-axis, does next to nothing to prevent it (aside from complaing about it), Slav Macedonians remain NATO cronies etc.
Now, I have to say, their respective citizens were more than helpful - the best example being the constant picketing of the Thessalonian suplie line by the "elendil" Greeks and the massive riots in Athens and many a Greek traveled to Serbia to support us.....
All in all, today, when there is a grave danger of Greater Albania, both the official Skoplje and Athens better come to their senses soon!

[MathiasOfAthens]

If Albania changes their name to Epirius, then people better wake up. According to a book on the Basque there are references to the Albanians as being very closely related to the Ancient peoples who lived in Epirius.

What if FYRom and Greece combined to form a Large Greek state with equal rights for both ethnic Slavs, Greeks, Turks, and any other ethnic group. That would solve a lot of problems.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

If Albania changes their name to Epirius, then people better wake up. According to a book on the Basque there are references to the Albanians as being very closely related to the Ancient peoples who lived in Epirius.

They seem related to God himself according to their propaganda. How solid a scientific source is that book on the Basque?

What if FYRom and Greece combined to form a Large Greek state with equal rights for both ethnic Slavs, Greeks, Turks, and any other ethnic group.

Some kinda Romanioi Empire revisited? Not a bad idea, would Serbia be invited to join it?, would our sovereignty on our entire territory be confirmed as a member?..

[MathiasOfAthens]

I read in most of my studies on the Eastern Roman Empire, and on the Western as well that ethnic tolorance was quite high, if I am wrong correct me. But with the twentieth century in full swing now and the 21st only beginning I realize nationalistic feelings are quite volatile.

With that said... Serbia was included in the Romanoi Empire of Constantinople and from time to time the two united to fight off other agressors. Sure why not. To avoid to threats of a Great Greece Athens could claim that they are not remaking the Roman Empire because they do not hold Constantinopolis.

Found the book in my library and its only a paragraph or so on the Albanians. The chapter is on languages and the relations between some modern languages to ancient languages. Sardinia is also mentioned in the chapter.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

I read in most of my studies on the Eastern Roman Empire, and on the Western as well that ethnic tolorance was quite high, if I am wrong correct me. But with the twentieth century in full swing now and the 21st only beginning I realize nationalistic feelings are quite volatile.

With that said... Serbia was included in the Romanoi Empire of Constantinople and from time to time the two united to fight off other agressors. Sure why not. To avoid to threats of a Great Greece Athens could claim that they are not remaking the Roman Empire because they do not hold Constantinopolis.

MatthiasOfAthens, I here by declare you a candidate for the first Bassileous of the Romanioi Empire reestablished!

Found the book in my library and its only a paragraph or so on the Albanians. The chapter is on languages and the relations between some modern languages to ancient languages. Sardinia is also mentioned in the chapter.

As far as my knowledge goes, they descent is modern day Azerbaijan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania
http://www.bakililar.az/ca/eng/news/news8_eng.html

[MathiasOfAthens]

Oh Thought we were talking about the Balkan Albania, when did the Caspian Albanian state come into here.

[Knight of Judgment]

if you think you are real macedonians , macedonians were greeks , so you can unite your country with us . two regions : skopje and monastiri .

[MathiasOfAthens]

Not exactly sure what you just said Jim.

[Giorgos]

What he said is not hard to understand. Read it again. Slowly.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Hes asking the FYROM Maks if they think they are real Maks. The ancient maks were greeks. His last sentence is saying you slavs only want to be Maks so that u can claim Greece.