Christianity vs. Islam in Terms of Violent Passages (Split from Geert Wilders thread)

[NaptownKnight]

Another thing, I won't generalize about something I have little knowledge about, but I think it's logical to assume that most Middle Eastern Muslims get their news from one source, and of course that one source could be full of prejudices.

And if Christians followed the Bible to a T, like many assume Muslims follow the Koran to a T, then wouldn't Christians be out stoning adulterers? The fact is, the same kind of violence present in the Koran is present in the Bible. In fact, IIRC, there are MORE verses relating to violence in the Bible than the Koran.

[boofhead]

And if Christians followed the Bible to a T, like many assume Muslims follow the Koran to a T, then wouldn't Christians be out stoning adulterers?

Sorry, but that is absolute, complete and utter garbage. Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone." I think you need to differentiate between Christians and the ancient Jews of the Torah.

[NaptownKnight]

Sorry, but that is absolute, complete and utter garbage. Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone." I think you need to differentiate between Christians and the ancient Jews of the Torah.

Didn't Jesus tell his followers to follow the Old testament too? Remember, Jesus was Jewish, and would have preached to many Jews too.

I mean the one historical account of Jesus describes him as a roaming preacher who only preached to small congregations of Jews.


Number of Cruel or Violent Passages
Bible 876
Quran 513

Now, the Quran is a smaller book, so it has a higher percentage of violent verses, but what say you to this Boofhead?

[Serious Spamurai]

Didn't Jesus tell his followers to follow the Old testament too? Remember, Jesus was Jewish, and would have preached to many Jews too.

I mean the one historical account of Jesus describes him as a roaming preacher who only preached to small congregations of Jews.


Number of Cruel or Violent Passages
Bible 876
Quran 513

Now, the Quran is a smaller book, so it has a higher percentage of violent verses, but what say you to this Boofhead?

Where'd you get that figures for the number of violent passages?

[NaptownKnight]

Where'd you get that figures for the number of violent passages?

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot....-or-quran.html

Conveniently if you click on the numbers you can see all of the violent verses themselves.

[Serious Spamurai]

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot....-or-quran.html

Conveniently if you click on the numbers you can see all of the violent verses themselves.

Ah, it includes the verses about damnation, that's why it seems like a lot.

[Captain Arrrgh!]

Sorry, but that is absolute, complete and utter garbage. Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone." I think you need to differentiate between Christians and the ancient Jews of the Torah.

No need to be sorry, the OP is indeed, garbage. Of course there was no mention of the talmud, with it's whole passages devoted to pedophilia, bloodletting, genocide, purger and calumny. The filthy rag known as the talmud outstrips both the koran and the bible for blatant excess in mans wickedness.

[Blau&Gruen]

Is not more the man the wicked than the books?

[Captain Arrrgh!]

Semantics = Codswallop.

[Serious Spamurai]

But Jesus died for our sins. I'm confused now. So we are allowed to stone people?

[boofhead]

But Jesus died for our sins. I'm confused now. So we are allowed to stone people?

Stoning is an Old Testament punishment. Jesus came with the New Covenant, the covenant of the heart and spirit. But Jesus also recognized temporal law "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's". If death by stoning is the penalty under temporal law, then so be it. But no Christian would throw a stone, because he knows he is also a sinner. "Judge not lest you be judged yourself."

The Romans killed Jesus, with the backing of the Jewish priesthood.

I don't know of a Christian society on this earth that would permit stoning.

[Burnum]

Stoning is an Old Testament punishment. Jesus came with the New Covenant, the covenant of the heart and spirit.

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

[boofhead]

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

yes, Burnum, that's what Jesus said. A Jew shall be judged by the Law, it has not disappeared. And if a Christian is like Christ, the Law will have been followed anyways. Don't you see?

[Oldgamer]

And if Christians followed the Bible to a T, like many assume Muslims follow the Koran to a T, then wouldn't Christians be out stoning adulterers?

In a word, "No".

The paradigm for Christians is Jesus, Himself. I realize that you're Jewish, but you live in America and you haven't heard of the story of Jesus saving the life of a prostitute by picking up a stone and saying to the crowd, "Let He who is without sin among you cast the first stone"?

I assume that Muslims stone adulterers because they agree with their own scriptures, and with the Old Testament.

The fact is, the same kind of violence present in the Koran is present in the Bible. In fact, IIRC, there are MORE verses relating to violence in the Bible than the Koran.

In the Old Testament. In the New Testament, violence is pretty much directed at Christ, and Christians.

[NaptownKnight]

Honestly I consider myself more of an agnostic these days.


Anyways, here are all of the violent verses from the New Testament. I didn't include the violent verses from the Christian version of the OT.

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749.

Matthew

750. Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12

751. Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17

752. Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30

753. Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14

754. Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

755. "The children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12

756. Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21

757. Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32

758. Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15

759. Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

760. Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28

761. Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36

762. Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24

763. Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50

764. Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7

765. Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

766. "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors." 18:34

767. In the parable of the marriage feast, the king sends his servants to gather everyone they can find, both bad and good, to come to the wedding feast. One guest didn't have on his wedding garment, so the king tied him up and "cast him into the outer darkness" where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 22:12-13

768. Jesus had no problem with the idea of drowning everyone on earth in the flood. It'll be just like that when he returns. 24:37

769. God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51

770. The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30

771. Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41

772. Jesus says the damned will be tormented forever. 25:46

Mark

773. Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

774. Jesus sends devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. When the people hear about it, they beg Jesus to leave. 5:12-13

775. Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

776. Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

777. If you're ashamed of Jesus, he'll be ashamed of you. (And you'll go straight to hell.) 8:38

778. Jesus tells us to cut off our hands and feet, and pluck out our eyes to avoid going to hell. 9:43-49

779. Jesus says that those that believe and are baptized will be saved, while those who don't will be damned. 16:16

Luke

780. God strikes Zacharias dumb for doubting the angel Gabriel's words. 1:20

781. Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 3:9

782. John the Baptist says that Christ will burn the damned "with fire unquenchable." 3:17

783. Jesus heals a naked man who was possessed by many devils by sending the devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the sea. This messy, cruel, and expensive (for the owners of the pigs) treatment did not favorably impress the local residents, and Jesus was asked to leave. 8:27-37

784. Jesus says that entire cities will be violently destroyed and the inhabitants "thrust down to hell" for not "receiving" his disciples. 10:10-15

785. Jesus says that we should fear God since he has the power to kill us and then torture us forever in hell. 12:5

786. Jesus says that God is like a slave-owner who beats his slaves "with many stripes." 12:46-47

787. According to Jesus, only a few will be saved; the vast majority will suffer eternally in hell where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 13:23-30

788. In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the rich man goes to hell, because as Abraham explains, he had a good life on earth and so now he will be tormented. Whereas Lazarus, who was miserable on earth, is now in heaven. This seems fair to Jesus. 16:19-31

789. Jesus believed the story of Noah's ark. He thought it really happened and had no problem with the idea of God drowning everything and everybody. 17:26-27

790. Jesus also believes the story about Sodom's destruction. He says, "even thus shall it be in the day the son of man is revealed ... Remember Lot's wife." This tells us about Jesus' knowledge of science and history, and his sense of justice. 17:29-32

791. In the parable of the talents, Jesus says that God takes what is not rightly his, and reaps what he didn't sow. The parable ends with the words: "bring them [those who preferred not to be ruled by him] hither, and slay them before me." 19:22-27

John

792. As an example to parents everywhere and to save the world (from himself), God had his own son tortured and killed. 3:16

793. People are damned or saved depending only on what they believe. 3:18, 36

794. The "wrath of God" is on all unbelievers. 3:36

795. Jesus believes people are crippled by God as a punishment for sin. He tells a crippled man, after healing him, to "sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." 5:14

796. Those who do not believe in Jesus will be cast into a fire to be burned. 15:6

797. Jesus says we must eat his flesh and drink his blood if we want to have eternal life. This idea was just too gross for "many of his disciples" and "walked no more with him." 6:53-66

Acts

798. Peter claims that Deuteronomy 18:18-19 refers to Jesus, saying that those who refuse to follow him (all non-Christians) must be killed. 3:23

799. Peter and God scare Ananias and his wife to death for not forking over all of the money that they made when selling their land. 5:1-10

800. Peter has a dream in which God show him "wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls." The voice (God's?) says, "Rise, Peter: kill and eat." 10:10-13

801. Peter describes the vision that he had in the last chapter (10:10-13). All kinds of beasts, creeping things, and fowls drop down from the sky in a big sheet, and a voice (God's, Satan's?) tells him to "Arise, Peter; slay and eat." 11:5-6

802. The "angel of the Lord" killed Herod by having him "eaten of worms" because "he gave not God the glory." 12:23

803. David was "a man after [God's] own heart." 13:22

804. The author of Acts talks about the "sure mercies of David." But David was anything but merciful. For an example of his behavior see 2 Sam.12:31 and 1 Chr.20:3, where he saws, hacks, and burns to death the inhabitants of several cities. 13:34

805. Paul and the Holy Ghost conspire together to make Elymas (the sorcerer) blind. 13:8-11

Romans

806. Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death." 1:31-32

807. The guilty are "justified" and "saved from wrath" by the blood of an innocent victim. 5:9

808. God punishes everyone for someone else's sin; then he saves them by killing an innocent victim. 5:12

1 Corinthians

809. If you defile the temple of God, God will destroy you. 3:17

810. Paul claims that God killed 23,000 in a plague for "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab 10:8

811. If you tempt Christ (How could you tempt Christ?), you'll will die from snake bites. 10:9

812. If you murmur, you'll be destroyed by the destroyer (God). 10:10

2 Corinthians (None)

Galatians (None)

Ephesians

813. We are predestined by God to go to either heaven or hell. None of our thoughts, words, or actions can affect the final outcome. 1:4-5, 11

814. God had his son murdered to keep himself from hurting others for things they didn't do. 1:7

815. The bloody death of Jesus smelled good to God. 5:2

816. Those who refuse to obey will face the wrath of God. 5:6

Philippians (None)

Colossians

817. God bought us with someone else's blood. 1:14

818. God makes peace through blood. 1:19-20

1 Thessalonians

819. God is planning a messy, mass murder in "the wrath to come" and only Jesus can save you from it. 1:10

2 Thessalonians

820. Jesus will take "vengeance on them that know not God" by burning them forever "in flaming fire." 1:7-9

821. Jesus will "consume" the wicked "with the spirit of his mouth." 2:8

822. God will cause us to believe lies so that he can damn our souls to hell. 2:11-12

1 Timothy (None)

2 Timothy (None)

Titus (None)

Philemon (None)

Hebrews

823. God will not forgive us unless we shed the blood of some innocent creature. 9:13-14, 22

824. Those who disobeyed the Old Testament law were killed without mercy. It will be much worse for those who displease Jesus. 10:28-29

825. The Israelites kept the passover and sprinkled blood on doorposts so that God wouldn't kill their firstborn children (like he did the Egyptians in Exodus 12:29). 11:28

826. God ordered animals to be "stoned, or thrust through with a dart" if they "so much as ... touch the mountain." 12:20

James

827. If you are merciless to others, God will be merciless to you. (Two wrongs make a right.) 2:13

828. James says Abraham was justified by works (for being willing to kill his son for God); Paul (Rom.4:2-3) says he was justified by faith (for believing that God would order him to do such an evil act). 2:21

1 Peter

829. We are all, according to Peter, predestined to be saved or damned. We have no say in the matter. It was all determined by "the sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ."1:2

830. "The precious blood of Christ ... was foreordained before the foundation of the world."
God planned to kill Jesus from the get-go. 1:19-20

831. God drowned drowned everyone on earth except for Noah and his family. 3:20

2 Peter

832. God drowned everyone else on earth except for Noah and his family. 2:5, 3:6

833. God will set the entire earth on fire so that he can burn non-believers to death. 3:7

834. When Jesus returns, he'll burn up the whole earth and everything on it. 3:10

1 John

835. Jesus' blood washes away human sin. 1:7

2 John (None)

3 John (None)

Jude

836. "The Lord destroyed them that believed not." 5

Revelation

837. Jesus "washed us ... with his own blood." 1:5

838. Everyone on earth will wail because of Jesus. 1:7

839. Jesus has "the keys of hell and death." 1:18

840. Repent -- or else Jesus will fight you with the sword that sticks out of his mouth. (Like the limbless knight in Monty Python's "Holy Grail.") 2:16

841. "I [Jesus] will kill her children with death." 2:23

842. "Thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." God created predators, pathogens, and predators for his very own pleasure. One of his favorite species is guinea worms. 4:11

843. "Thou art worthy ... for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood." 5:9

844. God gives someone on a white horse a bow and sends him out to conquer people. 6:2

845. God gave power to someone on a red horse "to take from the earth ... that they should kill one another." 6:4

846. God tells Death and Hell to kill one quarter of the earth's population with the sword, starvation, and "with the beasts of the earth." 6:8

847. The martyrs just can't wait until everyone else is slaughtered. God gives them a white robe and tells them to wait until he's done with his killing spree. 6:10-11

848. God tells his murderous angels to "hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of your God on their foreheads." This verse is one that Christians like to use to show God's loving concern for the environment. But the previous verse (7:2) makes it clear that it was their God-given job to "hurt the earth and the sea" just as soon as they finished their forehead marking job. 7:3

849. 144,000 Jews will be going to heaven; everyone else is going to hell. 7:4

850. Those that survive the great tribulation will get to wash their clothes in the blood of the lamb. 7:14

851. God sends his angels to destroy a third part of all the trees, grass, sea creature, mountains, sun, moon, starts, and water. 8:7-13

852. "Many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." 8:11

853. The angels are instructed not to "hurt the grass [how could they? He already had all the grass killed in 8:7] ... but only those men which have not the seal of God on their foreheads." God tells his angels not to kill them, but rather torment them with scorpions for five months. Those tormented will want to die, but God won't let them. 9:4-6

854. God makes some horse-like locusts with human heads, women's hair, lion's teeth, and scorpion's tails. They sting people and hurt them for five months. 9:7-10

855. Four angels, with an army of 200 million, killed a third of the earth's population. 9:15-19

856. Anyone that messes with God's two olive trees and two candlesticks (God's witnesses) will be burned to death by fire that comes out of their mouths. 11:3-5

857. God's witnesses have special powers. They can shut up heaven so that it cannot rain, turn rivers into blood, and smite the earth with plagues "as often as they will." 11:6

858. After God's witnesses "have finished their testimony," they are killed in a war with a beast from a bottomless pit. 11:7

859. Their dead bodies lie unburied for three and a half days. People will "rejoice over them and make merry, and shall send gifts to one another." After another three and half days God brings his witnesses back to life and they ascend into heaven. 11:8-12

860. When the witnesses ascend into heaven, an earthquake kills 7000 men. This was the second woe. "The third woe cometh quickly." 11:13-14

861. "The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world"
God planned to kill Jesus before he created the world. 13:8

862. Those who receive the mark of the beast will "drink of the wine of the wrath of God ... and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone ... and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever." 14:10-11

863. "The great winepress of the wrath of God ... was trodden ... and the blood cam out of the winepress, even unto the horses bridles." 14:19-20

864. Seven angels with seven plagues are filled with the wrath of God. 15:1, 15:7

865. The seven vials of wrath: 1) sores, 2) sea turned to blood, 3) rivers turned to blood, 4) people scorched with fire, 5) people gnaw their tongues in pain, 6) Euphrates dries up, 7) thunder, lightning, earthquake, and hail. 16:1-21

866. God gave the saints and prophets blood to drink. 16:6

867. "They shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire." (Are they going to eat her first and then burn her?) 17:16-17

868. To punish her God will send plagues and famine, and "she will be utterly burned with fire." 18:8

869. God will send plagues, death, and famine on Babylon, and the kings "who have committed fornication with her" will be sad to see her burn. 18:8-9

870. Jesus makes war. 19:11

871. With eyes aflame, many crowns on his head, clothes dripping with blood, a sword sticking out of his mouth, and a secret name, Jesus leads the faithful into holy war. 19:12-15

872. "Come ... unto the supper of the great God." An angel calls all the fowls to feast upon the flesh of dead horses and human bodies, "both free and bond, both small and great." 19:17-18

873. The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest were killed with the sword of Jesus. "And all the fowls were filled with their flesh." 19:20-21

874. God will send fire from heaven to devour people. And the devil will be tormented "day and night for ever and ever." 20:9-10

875. Whoever isn't found listed in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. 20:15

876. All liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." 21:8

[Oldgamer]

Honestly I consider myself more of an agnostic these days.

Anyways, here are all of the violent verses from the New Testament. I didn't include the violent verses from the Christian version of the OT.

First, every single one of the verses you quote is taken completely out of their context, and there is not time to refute them, one by one. So, pick a verse ... any verse.

Second, are you trying to say that the Christian "version" of the Old Testament is different from the Jewish version? More violent? Note that Christian versions are directly translated from the Hebrew by qualified Hebrew scholars, many of whom are Jewish.

Finally, you know the mods are going to kill us if we keep going off-topic. I realize that there is an indirect correlation between these ideas, and the OP. But the thread is about the Geert Wilder's film, and about whether the Dutch government should intervene.

[NaptownKnight]

First, every single one of the verses you quote is taken completely out of their context, and there is not time to refute them, one by one. So, pick a verse ... any verse.

Second, are you trying to say that the Christian "version" of the Old Testament is different from the Jewish version? More violent? Note that Christian versions are directly translated from the Hebrew by qualified Hebrew scholars, many of whom are Jewish.

Finally, you know the mods are going to kill us if we keep going off-topic. I realize that there is an indirect correlation between these ideas, and the OP. But the thread is about the Geert Wilder's film, and about whether the Dutch government should intervene.

Yes, I know. Maybe they could split this discussion off into it's own thread? It is proving quite interesting.

Anyways, the Christian version does differ, as Wiki so eloquently puts it "The Old Testament is the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh, with some variations and additions.".

I am not saying the Chrisitan version is more violent, but I am sure there are probably one or two different violent verses and such. Since the usual response to one using the Old Testament to criticize Christianity is that the New Testament is what Christianity is based off of, I figured it best to focus on the NT.

I would like it if you could explain these, if you will:

Mathew:
Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

Mark:
Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

These are just a quick read through the top of the list, there are probably "juicier" ones.

[removeduser_426582376423734]

Have you actually read those verses? I've done you the liberty of quoting those passages in context so you will stop spouting rubbish. The last one kills me, where the hell is that commentary looking? The Quranic version of the Bible?

Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them"

Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

7"Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! 8If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell."

Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

"And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."

Ooh, savage!

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

9"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake?"

[Oldgamer]

Mathew:
Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

The scripture you are referencing cannot be taken out of its context, like all of the scriptures that are in your list. It is contained in a section of Christ's instructions to his followers, and concerns the matter of False and True Teachings:

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:15-20

The above is a teaching designed to show His followers how to discern bad teachers and teachings from good ones. He illustrates that bad teachers will be punished, just like a tree in an orchard which doesn't produce good fruit will be cut down and burned. However, note that Jesus doesn't tell his followers to go around looking for bad teacher, false prophets, and the like. All He wants them to do is to be able to tell the bad from the good, by the results of their teachings.

Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

This is a rather long passage (Matthew 18:6-11), and deals with the punishment of offenders ... not in this world, but in the next. Note that Jesus preached much more about hell than he did about heaven!

It starts out with Jesus warning those who cause His "little ones" (a possible reference to children or His followers) to sin. He states that the best thing that could happen to such a person is that a millstone were hung around his neck, and he would be drowned in the sea, before he could do such a thing.

The next section of the passage is the one you reference. Jesus is not actually encouraging people to mutilate themselves. He is using picture-phrases to get them to understand that, for example, if their hand or foot causes them to sin, "cut it off and cast it from you". In other words, those things that are the root causes of sins ... the desires for pleasure, power, wealth, etc. ... must be ruthlessly stamped out. Once again, He's not calling for self-mutilation.

The last section of the passage talks of Christ's care for His "little ones", once again, and states that in heaven, angels take watch over them. He warns once again not to harm them, and says, "... the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost."

The entire section, once again, is a warning to those who would harm those Christ has come to save, and a vivid illustration of what a believer should do to those desires he has that cause him to sin.

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Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

This passage is in the context of when Jesus sent the Twelve apostles out to serve. It's rather long, also, but I will quote the relevant passage:

And He said to them, "In whatever place you enter a house, stay there till you depart from that place. And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under you feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city! Mark 6:10-11

The words "day of judgment" are the most important words, in this passage. The day of judgment refers to the last the last, Great Judgment, and Jesus is implying that the sinful people of Sodom and Gomorrah will fare better, on that day (because they never heard the Gospel of Christ), than people who reject His offer of salvation.

Note that Jesus is not telling His apostles to take violent action against them.

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

In these verses, Jesus is hitting the Pharisees very hard. Note what He says in Verse 9: He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. Just one verse earlier, Jesus says: For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men - the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do. This is what Jesus referenced just before that: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

You, certainly, must understand that the tradition of the elders was a series of rules meant to bolster the ceremonial law of the Jews. However, its authority was not backed by Scripture. Later, Jesus says:

Hear Me, everyone, and understand: There is nothing that enters a man from the outside which can defile him; but the things that come out of him, those are the things that defile a man. If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!

Defilement, to the Pharisees, had become a complicated series of rules and procedures that had to be obeyed, even though there was no Scriptural commandment to do those things. If a person broke the rules, he was considered "defiled". But Jesus said that breaking the traditions of men doesn't defile a man. It's that which is in a man that defiles him.

Jesus is not commanding people to be put to death. And He certainly does not agree with Old Testament verses that "disobedient sons be put to death". He is saying that the Pharisees are "making the word of God of no effect" through the rigid, legalistic enforcement of their rules.

So basics, you confirm that Jesus is saying that those that turned him down are going to suffer.

Yes. In the next world. That's exactly what Jesus is saying ...

But do you know that Jesus died on the Cross to make you at one with God, and is giving you countless opportunities to accept Him, even on this board? If you suffer in the next world, it will not be because you had no opportunity.

This is the meaning of what Basics was saying (although he can defend his position quite well, in my experience!) ...

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753. Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14

Gosh dang it!