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    Default Plan Would Expand Fed's Power to Intervene in Financial Crisis

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/28/fin...ght/index.html

    Check it out. All I have to say is we dont need the fed to get any more power than it already has.


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    Default Re: Plan Would Expand Fed's Power to Intervene in Financial Crisis

    Please god no..

    An unelected bureaucrat having all the power of a 10+ Trillion dollar economy. Screw that.
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    Default Re: Plan Would Expand Fed's Power to Intervene in Financial Crisis

    No one likes the fed?

    Let's see how you do without it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Please god no..

    An unelected bureaucrat having all the power of a 10+ Trillion dollar economy. Screw that.

    The question may very well be who do you want safeguarding the economy in a situation like this, the fed, or the congress/president. Our elected officals in the latter tend to get elected through various means which may or may not include a backround in finance/economics where as members of the fed, well, finance/economics is there sole purpose in the government for the most part.

    Although, I do whole heartily agree.. Big government =

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Please god no..

    An unelected bureaucrat having all the power of a 10+ Trillion dollar economy. Screw that.
    Because the status quo of little to no oversight had nothing to do with the current morgage crises?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major.Stupidity View Post
    Because the status quo of little to no oversight had nothing to do with the current morgage crises?
    exactly, next time, the Feds should know earlier when banks are lending out -quality subprime loans to people who can't afford them.
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    Default Re: Plan Would Expand Fed's Power to Intervene in Financial Crisis

    No one likes the fed?

    Let's see how you do without it...
    What, you mean like many European countries? I'm sorry If I don't like an independent bank in charge of something expressly given to the government in our national framework.
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    Default Re: Plan Would Expand Fed's Power to Intervene in Financial Crisis

    So you want socialism as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Soda View Post
    So you want socialism as well?
    Yes, please!

    The Federal Reserve Bank is a corrupt body that has it's claws firmly embedded in the flesh of our American republic.




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    So you want socialism as well?
    Random incorrect statements for the win! Europe =/= socialist.

    The question may very well be who do you want safeguarding the economy in a situation like this, the fed, or the congress/president. Our elected officals in the latter tend to get elected through various means which may or may not include a backround in finance/economics where as members of the fed, well, finance/economics is there sole purpose in the government for the most part.
    Is a question of accountability. The Fed is an independent bank with as many powers over the US economy as our elected government. I personally don't like corporations having the power to print and 'invent' money. Thats just stupid - and the cause of our staggering inflation over the past 20-30 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Is a question of accountability. The Fed is an independent bank with as many powers over the US economy as our elected government. I personally don't like corporations having the power to print and 'invent' money. Thats just stupid - and the cause of our staggering inflation over the past 20-30 years.
    actually the Fed works pretty closely together with the government.


    1) the presidentially-appointed Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in Washington, D.C.; (2) the Federal Open Market Committee; (3) 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation acting as fiscal agents for the U.S. Treasury, each with its own nine-member board of directors; (4) numerous private U.S. member banks, which subscribe to required amounts of non-transferable stock in their regional Federal Reserve Banks; and (5) various advisory councils. Currently, Ben Bernanke serves as the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.


    they are a creature of the federal government..
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    Default Re: Plan Would Expand Fed's Power to Intervene in Financial Crisis

    Is a question of accountability. The Fed is an independent bank with as many powers over the US economy as our elected government. I personally don't like corporations having the power to print and 'invent' money. Thats just stupid - and the cause of our staggering inflation over the past 20-30 years.

    Agreed. Although, in this case, whom do you consider more accountable? The Fed is in most ways directly accountable to the government, and on a regular basis. Your elected official whether it be the President or a member of Congress may not have to answer for his or her mistakes for years depending on the election cycle, outside of Impeachment of course.
    Last edited by CDMan477; March 29, 2008 at 09:25 PM.

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    The Fed is a product of the investment houses attempt to control Wild-Cat banking. The fed is the central stability in the monetary affairs of the nation and for those who trade with America through it's currency the dollar. The fed having more power; is a good idea if an over-sight body of elected officials with a clear interest in America ensures that policy is always for the bettering American of those interest around the world. If the Fed can ensure that anarchist and other Anti-American group interests do not, cannot gain the power to move the economy of shore or dis-mantle than fine.The trillion dollar economy of free markets is today subject to attacks of economic jihad. The Fed MUST stabilize the current crisis or WW III will surely follow. One of the first steps that should be taken is the rebuilding of American industry and infrastructures. Get americans back to work and forget globalization... period!
    But I'm afraid as it is more power to the Fed will only mean more control to put america in harms way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    One of the first steps that should be taken is the rebuilding of American industry and infrastructures. Get americans back to work and forget globalization... period!
    HAHHAHA...i know...that will somehow make the budget deficit disappear
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    exactly, next time, the Feds should know earlier when banks are lending out -quality subprime loans to people who can't afford them.
    Ha, ha, and we have a winner. This pretty much hits the nail on the head right here. Who's to blame though? The lenders giving out the sub-primes, or the folks who know they can't afford a house and go for them anyway?


    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    The Fed is a product of the investment houses attempt to control Wild-Cat banking. The fed is the central stability in the monetary affairs of the nation and for those who trade with America through it's currency the dollar. The fed having more power; is a good idea if an over-sight body of elected officials with a clear interest in America ensures that policy is always for the bettering American of those interest around the world. If the Fed can ensure that anarchist and other Anti-American group interests do not, cannot gain the power to move the economy of shore or dis-mantle than fine.The trillion dollar economy of free markets is today subject to attacks of economic jihad. The Fed MUST stabilize the current crisis or WW III will surely follow. One of the first steps that should be taken is the rebuilding of American industry and infrastructures. Get americans back to work and forget globalization... period!
    But I'm afraid as it is more power to the Fed will only mean more control to put america in harms way.

    WWW III, economic jihads? Forgive me if this sounds all a bit extreme. Oh, and "get Americans back to work"? You do realize that despite the disappointing economic data lately, unemployment is still well within the norm for the past two decades. Unless your claiming Americans have needed to "get back to work" since 1980. Then you may have a point not that this thread has much to do with unemployment anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMan477 View Post
    Ha, ha, and we have a winner. This pretty much hits the nail on the head right here. Who's to blame though? The lenders giving out the sub-primes, or the folks who know they can't afford a house and go for them anyway?
    Both but the Fed only have the power (and right) to step into the middle of the actions of only one of those two and its not the "folks"

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Both but the Fed only have the power (and right) to step into the middle of the actions of only one of those two and its not the "folks"

    Hmm, I have to disagree. Aren't these people just as culpable if not more so. If we can't trust people to make reasonable decisions based off their current financial situation, maybe Europe has it right. Perhaps we should let the government handle our money for us.

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