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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Federal Reserve would have the power to regulate virtually the entire financial industry under a Treasury Department proposal to be announced Monday.


    Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson will introduce the proposals in a speech Monday, a spokeswoman says.

    The proposal is part of a sweeping overhaul of the government's regulatory structure that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson will propose in a speech Monday, said Treasury Department spokeswoman Michele Davis.

    "I am not suggesting that more regulation is the answer, or even that more effective regulation can prevent the periods of financial market stress that seem to occur every five to 10 years," Paulson will say, according to a text of the speech obtained by The Associated Press.

    According to Brookly McLaughlin, another department spokeswoman, Paulson will propose these changes:

    • Give the Federal Reserve authority to look at the financial status of any institution that could affect market stability;

    • Merge the Securities and Exchange Commission with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission;

    • Give stock exchanges more room for self-regulation;

    • Consolidate bank supervision into one regulator.

    One of the most dramatic changes would extend the powers of the Federal Reserve -- designed to regulate the commercial banking industry -- to oversight of virtually the entire financial industry.

    That change would make the Fed the first responder to a potential financial crisis. Currently, several agencies and commissions have oversight over various parts of the industry, but none has the broad authority.

    The proposals have been in the works since June -- two months before the current sub-prime mortgage crisis began affecting financial markets, Davis said.

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    Nevertheless, the proposed change would help the oversight and regulatory system catch up with the events of the last two weeks, when the Federal Reserve intervened to facilitate the sale of failing brokerage Bear Stearns to JP Morgan Chase.

    The financial industry's initial response was positive.

    Tim Ryan, president and CEO of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association, called Paulson's proposals "a thoughtful and sweeping plan."

    "Our present regulatory framework was born of Depression-era events and is not well suited for today's environment where billions of dollars race across the globe with the click of a mouse," he said.

    "That fact, teamed with the current market conditions, result in a universal agreement that it is time to modernize and revitalize the current system."

    Some of the proposals -- broadening the focus of a presidential working group on financial markets and tightening oversight on mortgage originators -- are classified as short-term recommendations.

    Davis said the department does not expect to finish the longer-term proposals before President Bush leaves office in January. Instead, she said, Paulson is trying to start the process of creating "a better regulatory framework so we're in better shape next time" there's a rough patch in the economy.

    The banking and financial industry regulation structure has been developed over decades, from the establishment of the national bank charter in 1863 to the creation of the Federal Reserve system in 1913 to recent changes made in response to other crises.

    The ever-expanding complexities of global markets have largely outgrown some of the structure's component parts, creating weaknesses and redundancies.

    Nearly all of the proposals will require the approval of Congress, where Democrats are at work on their own proposals.

    Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, said that Democrats "agree with large parts" of Paulson's plan but think the proposals should go further.

    "Very complex financial instruments have evolved in recent years, like [collateral debt obligations] and credit default swaps, which pose potential problems in terms of systemic risk," Schumer said. "The Treasury Department should address these issues as well."

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    Er what exactly is wrong with the bankers wielding power in what is their level of expertise? You wouldnt be arguing against researchers working on cures for cancer would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Er what exactly is wrong with the bankers wielding power in what is their level of expertise? You wouldnt be arguing against researchers working on cures for cancer would you?
    Besides the fact that there's no real substance to the "reforms"? The real problem was the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, allowing these investment banks to engage in all sorts of shenanigans and leave US taxpayers on the hook for cleaning up the mess. All these deregulation schemes conservatives keep pushing through do nothing but make rich people richer and leave the rest of us holding the bag.
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    Isn't the federal reserve only a partially seperate entity, largely still overlooked by the government.

    Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.

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    Good, now they can take action without delay and directly enforce their order.
    Letting companies get away with shady practices is the reason we're in this crisis in the first place. There's a limit to deregulation. After all, perfectly acceptable stock trading tactics of the 1920s today are prosecuted as insider trading.





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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat View Post
    Good, now they can take action without delay and directly enforce their order.
    Letting companies get away with shady practices is the reason we're in this crisis in the first place. There's a limit to deregulation. After all, perfectly acceptable stock trading tactics of the 1920s today are prosecuted as insider trading.
    By action I hope you mean more regulation and no bail outs. Its a load of crap that Banks can go hog wild in shady dealings and then not have to deal the repercussions. When the average joe blows his money in a shady deal you don't see Uncle Sam leading a hand.
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    this is what should be done LOOOOOOOG ing time ago...

    where the hell are these people when banks were lending out risky subprime loans to people who can't afford them? now financial institutions are going down one after another due to these bad loans and isn't this a bit too late?

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    More power to the bankers! They seem to know what to do with our money...
    these people aren't just bankers, they are the CENTRAL BANK (de facto), which is A PART of government's macro-management of the economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushbush View Post
    this is what should be done LOOOOOOOG ing time ago...

    where the hell are these people when banks were lending out risky subprime loans to people who can't afford them? now financial institutions are going down one after another due to these bad loans and isn't this a bit too late?
    It may be and now the general public is going to have to take one on chin.
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    They seem to know what to do with our money...
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    • Give the Federal Reserve authority to look at the financial status of any institution that could affect market stability;
    Is there an actual list of these "institutions", does it include the government?
    I fail to see how that does anything to help the Federal reserve do a better job, if these institutions are powerful enough to have an affect on market stability they can surely count on employees within their ranks to tell them when things are starting to turn into proverbial feces. At that point the Federal reserve can't really do much more than what it already does anyway and i don't see how having a look at their financial status helps anything. If anything it seems like it could increase the risks of insider trading. I would need a more in depth explanation as to how they think this would be helpful before dismissing it completely but at first glance it doesn't seem all that beneficial.

    • Merge the Securities and Exchange Commission with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission;
    This could be beneficial

    • Give stock exchanges more room for self-regulation;
    Self regulation in a domain where so much money changes hands is absurd, if anything i would expect more standardised regulation. You wouldn't put a lollipop in a room filled with toddlers, instruct them not to touch the said lollipop and expect it to still be there an hour later.

    • Consolidate bank supervision into one regulator.
    This could be beneficial, although it could potentially open the door to a number of bank mergers in the coming years. Considering the causes of the economic climate it might be their intention.

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    Bye bye laissez-faire. In comes communism and the regulated economy!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banzai! View Post
    Bye bye laissez-faire. In comes communism and the regulated economy!!!!!!!
    It's about dang time...

    (BTW communism is not regulated economy, it is a state-controlled economy most cases. Social democracies most often have a mixed economy favoring progressive economic policies through regulation. Hell, the US right now has a mixed economy)

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