Why Maxentius?

[Odovacar]

The roman ruler family is called Maxentius. This name I think wasnt popular and widely used in the early days of Rome rather later.
Why do they not bear a more original name?
Some old family I mean, the Cornelii, the Scipii, or something similar.

[rory o'kane]

i'd like to point out that the plural (i.e. the Gens name) of "Scipio" isn't "Scipii" - it's "Scipiones".

[Odovacar]

ok, but that doesnt change the fact no important man in early rome as named Maxentius...

[Astaroth]

lol IIRC the SPQR family in RTW vanilla is called Maxentius...

Just RS team bein' lazy

[Coldcall]

I think Maxentius is okay because in a way a RS campaign is kind of like a paralell history. Of course the whole idea of a ruling family before Caesar showed up is not historical. other than the odd dictator like Sulla the consuls were changed frequently if not every year - as far as I know.

What might be nice though and for some variety is if your starting families name could be random.

[snuggans]

it would be awesome to receive a Man of the Hour after Maximus Decimus Meridius.

[dvk901]

In RS2, the Roman family names are changed to Scipii to reflect that Scipio Africanus was a powerful General at the time. Unfortunately, because of the way the family name thing works in RTW, it isn't possible to really reflect historical families very well. I pulled out a lot of hair trying to make Sparta have 'Kings' with different names in RS2, and finally gave up.

Nor can you accurately reflect the difference between a Monarchy and a Republican form of government for this reason.

And yeah, using the 'romans_senate' family names was just my way of saying that Rome was one faction, not four.....plus, at the time I wrote much of RS1, I was having difficulty figuring out how to change names period.

[Odovacar]

Thanks for the answers.

I think a solution would be to name the starting characters to different names.
I mean we should not start with five Maxentius or so, but one Cornelius, one Fabius, one Aemilius, a Lucretius, etc.
So, the player could decide who will inherit power, at some extent even emulate that families replaced each other in consulate time to time, even though in this game only a dictatorship is possible, as there is one ruler.

But having multiple ancient families the player could roleplay more roman history.
I took part in the Character Names Project for MTW2, although having forgot much of that work, Im willing to help, if you need any.

This is just a suggestion to achieve great immersion for this already very spectacular mod.

[Spartan 666]

Unfortunately, because of the way the family name thing works in RTW, it isn't possible to really reflect historical families very well.

I pulled out a lot of hair trying to make Sparta have 'Kings' with different names in RS2, and finally gave up.

1-do you mean that in the game its not possible to use something to reflect the praenomen+nomen+cognomen system? there is an artificious way, but i have dubts on its effectiveness...in data\text\names.txt put two entries every name...example:if a character should be called Gaius Varro,you add something in the name or in the surname to have Gaius Terentius Varro! anyway, i think that building a family tree like this is better: an initial faction leader with 4 daughters,all married with characters that have a different surname. in this way you can reflect that in Rome there were a lot of noble families

2-what do you mean? that you can't have 2 faction leaders?

anyway,i always wondered if its possible to reintroduce the vanilla cursus honorum (praetor,censor,consul...)

[Squid]

1-do you mean that in the game its not possible to use something to reflect the praenomen+nomen+cognomen system? there is an artificious way, but i have dubts on its effectiveness...in data\text\names.txt put two entries every name...example:if a character should be called Gaius Varro,you add something in the name or in the surname to have Gaius Terentius Varro! anyway, i think that building a family tree like this is better: an initial faction leader with 4 daughters,all married with characters that have a different surname. in this way you can reflect that in Rome there were a lot of noble families

2-what do you mean? that you can't have 2 faction leaders?

anyway,i always wondered if its possible to reintroduce the vanilla cursus honorum (praetor,censor,consul...)

1 - That doesn't help since you can't make kids share their fathers last name, so family names are lost anyways

2 - yes that's essentially the problem

3 - no because we have no way to assign those ranks and take them away

[Caesar_1991]

Thanks for the answers.

I think a solution would be to name the starting characters to different names.
I mean we should not start with five Maxentius or so, but one Cornelius, one Fabius, one Aemilius, a Lucretius, etc.
So, the player could decide who will inherit power, at some extent even emulate that families replaced each other in consulate time to time, even though in this game only a dictatorship is possible, as there is one ruler.

But having multiple ancient families the player could roleplay more roman history.
I took part in the Character Names Project for MTW2, although having forgot much of that work, Im willing to help, if you need any.

This is just a suggestion to achieve great immersion for this already very spectacular mod.

And Caesar and octavianus

[pcaravel]

I think a solution would be to name the starting characters to different names.
I mean we should not start with five Maxentius or so, but one Cornelius, one Fabius, one Aemilius, a Lucretius, etc.

I totally agree with Odovacar. This should be much better for role-playing purposes.

anyway,i always wondered if its possible to reintroduce the vanilla cursus honorum (praetor,censor,consul...)

The Marcus Camillius Leadership System, which was mentioned in the Looking for New Trait/Ancillary Ideas thread, is much better than the vanilla cursus honorum.

[dvk901]

All Roman family members have to have the same last name. The only way around that would be to totally REMOVE all the last names. I have found no way around this. But if someone knows a way that doesn't involve jumping thru hoops and doing handstands on a roof...I'd be happy to see them.

[pseudocaesar]

Well, in RS2 Were gonna make our faction leader Quintus Fabius Maximus. The famous Delayer.

[Taelok]

Well, in RS2 Were gonna make our faction leader Quintus Fabius Maximus. The famous Delayer.

Fabius the Delayer! This is going to be perfect for roleplaying Hannibals campaign. No doubt, however, that Fabius will choose to fight a field battle against Hannibal though, when controlled by the AI.

[SMoVader]

dvk that's not true, look at the roman family tree on the XGM (Extended greek mod) they all have different last names.

[Nellup]

dvk that's not true, look at the roman family tree on the XGM (Extended greek mod) they all have different last names.

Perhaps they have removed last names and just stuck two words as the first name?

[dvk901]

dvk that's not true, look at the roman family tree on the XGM (Extended greek mod) they all have different last names.

It could well be that's the case...however, as I'm not in the habit of copying other's work, I tried to figure it out myself.....and gave up.

I imagine that someone with a 'cause' to fix this could do it, it's just that when I made this attempt, I had a 1,000 other things to do as well.

[Noodlegasm]

in xgm the romans have lots of girls married to lots cool named men

like Scipii , brutii , julia , Crassus and mus

geting over it that way