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    Default US Mistakenly Ships ICBM Parts to Taiwan(nuclear)

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    WASHINGTON - The Defense Department announced Tuesday that the United States mistakenly shipped to Taiwan four electrical fuses designed for use on intercontinental ballistic missiles but has since recovered them.

    The error is particularly disturbing, officials said, because of its indirect link to nuclear weaponry and because of the sensitivity of U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, which China regularly denounces as provocative. The Defense Department said an investigation of the incident is under way.

    At a news conference, Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne said the misshipped items were four electrical fuses for nose cone assemblies for ICBMs. He also said they were delivered to Taiwan in 2006 and had been sent instead of helicopter batteries that had been ordered by Taiwan.



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    Wynne said the investigation is meant to sort out what happened and how.
    The fuses were manufactured for use on a Minuteman strategic nuclear missile but contained no nuclear materials.

    It is the second nuclear-related mistake involving the Air Force in recent months. Last August an Air Force B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and flown across several states. At the time, the pilot and crew were unaware they had nuclear arms aboard.

    Wynne emphasized that the mistaken shipment to Taiwan did not include nuclear materials, although the fuses are linked to the triggering mechanism in the nose cone of a Minuteman nuclear missile.

    "This could not be construed as being nuclear material. It is a component for the fuse in the nosecone for a nuclear system," Wynne said. "We are very concerned about it."

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates ordered the investigation, putting Navy Adm. Kirkland H. Donald in charge and asking that he report an initial assessment by April 15.

    Wynne said that Taiwanese authorities notified U.S. officials of the mistake, but it was not clear when the notification was made. He said the fuses had been in four shipping containers sent in March 2005 from a base in the state of Wyoming to a logistics warehouse in Utah. It was then in the logistics agency's control and was shipped to Taiwan "on or around" August 2006, according to a Gates memo ordering Donald to investigate.

    The Chinese Embassy did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A Taiwan official said Tuesday that the island's diplomats in Washington typically do not comment on Defense Department matters.

    Ryan Henry, the No. 2 policy official in Gates' office, said President George W. Bush was notified of the mistake and the actions to recover the items. Henry called the mistake "disconcerting" and intolerable. He said the Chinese government has been notified of the error.

    Henry said an examination of the site in Taiwan where the components had been stored after delivery indicated that they had not been tampered with. He said the components were "quite dated," as part of a system designed in the 1960s.

    Henry said the exact sequence of events that led to the mistake and the recovery of the items was unclear.

    U.S. arms sales to Taiwan are especially sensitive because China vehemently objects to U.S. defense assistance to the island that Beijing deems to be part of China.

    Taiwan, which split from China amid civil war in 1949, potentially is the most sensitive issue in U.S.-China relations. Beijing claims Taiwan as its own and has threatened to attack should the self-governing island make its de facto independence formal. Washington has hinted that it would go to war to protect Taiwan.

    While Washington switched its recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, it remains the island's most important foreign backer, providing it with the means to defend itself against a possible Chinese attack.

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    hahahaha, i am not laughing at the us "accident" but at the possibilities of such an incident. its perfect material for conspiracy theories. the parts were delivered to taiwan around 05-06. so its been awhile.

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    Itss too bad that we accidently did that.
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    Yes, otherwise the yellow man would be in dire need of a chinese Kennedy Clone and a quarantine on Taiwan
    If one can believe the article the carelessness with wich nuclear assets seemed to have been handled with is more distressing than the little mistake of exporting it to Taiwan wich reported the mistake anyway.
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    M'eh, this is non-news.

    The US lost a couple dozen complete nuclear warheads throughout the course of the the Cold War, and there are at least 11 that were never recovered.

    It may be somewhat ominous to think about, but as I type this there's an A-4 Skyhawk somewhere off the coast of Japan at the bottom of the ocean that has a B43 tactical nuclear weapon (max yield of 1 megaton) loaded onboard.

    The Russians (and a few other nuclear powers) were/are just as guilty, if not more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    M'eh, this is non-news.

    The US lost a couple dozen complete nuclear warheads throughout the course of the the Cold War, and there are at least 11 that were never recovered.

    It may be somewhat ominous to think about, but as I type this there's an A-4 Skyhawk somewhere off the coast of Japan at the bottom of the ocean that has a B43 tactical nuclear weapon (max yield of 1 megaton) loaded onboard.

    The Russians (and a few other nuclear powers) were/are just as guilty, if not more.
    There's also one off the coast of Georgia (the State) I believe, kind of scary if you think about it.
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    Some accident that was. Just like the accident of sending nuclear material to Israel. I mean, come one Americans, we know you do it on purpose so why don't you just come out and make an announcement. This would work:

    "Yesterday we sent on purpose nuclear tech to Taiwan who is our first line of defense against evil number 2 in the world. It was no accident. We merely protect our international interests, thank you very much. After all everybody does it. I will now take your questions".


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    Americans? Last I ing checked I didn't ship out any nuke parts today..

    Our government? Yes.
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    are we to assume that the taiwanese have replicated the minuteman tech?
    i guess we wont be seeing a reunification by force anytime soon

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    There's no accident.
    There's: "I tried, you found out, so it's an accident."

    An indication of a successful Chinese espionage.
    Believe me, Taiwan is crawling with mainland spies. It's not hard at all.
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    Yes, those fuses were a serious threat to Chinese national security. Imagine what might happen if fuses were to fall into the wrong hands. They could overload themselves with electrical charge. Or something. A guy once tried to mug me in London and I can tell you, he moved the hell along pretty God damned sharpish when I waved my ing fuse at him. There were easier game for him to hunt.
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    Ahahahahahahahaahahaa, if they're really accidents then America is probably one of the worst countries when it comes to itinerary check.
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    4 fuses. It's not like they were actual warheads or missiles. They must be what? a length of wire/coil of wire in a tube, hardly worthy of a news item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Spamurai View Post
    4 fuses. It's not like they were actual warheads or missiles. They must be what? a length of wire/coil of wire in a tube, hardly worthy of a news item.

    why can't US send some of that to China in those heavy machinery exports.
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    The point is its sensitive material and could potentially be disastrous in the wrong hands. In the whole Iran fiasco and stopping everyone else from getting a Nuke accidentally giving pieces of the technology to a tiny country is a pretty big problem and it isn't the first time.

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    The point is its sensitive material and could potentially be disastrous in the wrong hands.
    And once again you prove (rather succinctly) that you really don't know what you're talking about.

    If it had been a couple thryistors, or maybe some warhead triggers that the US had sent, then yes that would've been a problem that was newsworthy.

    This...isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    And once again you prove (rather succinctly) that you really don't know what you're talking about.

    If it had been a couple thryistors, or maybe some warhead triggers that the US had sent, then yes that would've been a problem that was newsworthy.

    This...isn't.


    What stops them from accidentally sending something that really important next time? Just because it wasn't that important doesn't change the inadequacy of U.S.A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    you prove (rather succinctly) that you really don't know what you're talking about.
    If it had been a couple thryistors, or maybe some warhead triggers that the US had sent, then yes that would've been a problem that was newsworthy.
    This...isn't.
    So you deny that it is sensitive material and it is perfectly normal, hey why not had it out like chocolate? God the lengths stubborn people go to defend themselves. Just say it was wrong and in future shouldn't be repeated.

    I never made the point that it mattered what the equipment was, the point i made was that it was sensitive material and it should not have been crapply checked, this isn't the first time it had happened, learn to read and not cherry pick.

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    Four forty year old fuses, an electrical engineer and a decent machine shop could design them I'm sure Taiwan's native arms industry could do several times better and probably has (conventional weapons use fuses to). This makes me doubt it was a deliberate attempt to arm Taiwan with nuclear weapons.
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    What stops them from accidentally sending something that really important next time?
    What makes you think the electrical fuzes for the noze cone assemblies of ICBMs are important?

    They may be military grade, but practically any machine shop could make them.

    Just because it wasn't that important doesn't change the inadequacy of U.S.A.
    So much for your objectivity on the matter...

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