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    Default Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/cri...der.signs.kwch

    Thats what you get you son of a , you sleep with 9 year olds people have a right to know, your lucky you aren't in prison, infact signs should be the least of your problems.....

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    lol...i am pretty sure not many ppl will be sympathetic towards these bastards..
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    you sleep with 9 year olds people have a right to know
    They really don't, it invades someone's right to privacy.

    Would you like it if I started putting signs in your front yard exposing one of your bigger mistakes for the world to know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    They really don't, it invades someone's right to privacy.

    Would you like it if I started putting signs in your front yard exposing one of your bigger mistakes for the world to know?

    does protecting the children around the area worth more than protecting the privacy of these few?
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    There is no evidence that this does anything of the sort. All it does is attract vigilante justice and harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    There is no evidence that this does anything of the sort. All it does is attract vigilante justice and harassment.

    ok, if there is a dangerous sex offender living next door, isn't it better to know that he is there...letting all the parents know that?
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    So people can go knocking on his door, demanding that he move, and overall harassing him? No, its better for the cops to just keep a better eye on him/her.
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    I can't play the vid for some reason. Sounds like a couple of people we have here on TWC, who shall remain nameless.

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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    I agree with Sidmen, the signs have no place. Put him on the website for convicted sexual predators and have the law enforcement keep an eye on him.

    Signs encourage harassment and vigilante justice.
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    Who says it was children, and their some monster that'll do it again? A sex offender means they could have molested children or have made a really stupid decision at a frat party.
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralLee View Post
    Who says it was children, and their some monster that'll do it again? A sex offender means they could have molested children or have made a really stupid decision at a frat party.
    The guy himself, apparently.

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    A sex offender means they could have molested children or have made a really stupid decision at a frat party.
    Or even hired a hooker and prosecuted for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Or even hired a hooker and prosecuted for it.
    Really, ohwell why pay when you can get some for free .
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    I actually like the sex offender registration sites. If I remember correctly the Indiana or at least the Kosc. County Sex Offender website tell what they are in jail for whether it is Sex with a minor/rape/etc...

    If I remember correctly its all public information anyways. Unless your like Martha Stuart or something.
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    Default Re: Convicted sex-offender upset over "signs."

    Show of hands - who here doesn't think this degenerate should be required to keep his signs and is also a parent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotspur View Post
    Show of hands - who here doesn't think this degenerate should be required to keep his signs and is also a parent?
    Parent in me says absolutely should keep those signs, if a sex offender lived anywhere remotely close to where I do I'd sure as hell want to know for the sake of my daughter. But (always a but) if someone is that much of a risk then quite frankly they shouldnt be out in the first place, its a difficult situation in that sex offenders are clearly treated differently then any other criminal when they are no longer in prison. If they are suppose to be rehabilitated Im not sure how subjecting them to constant harassment that probably helps push them back over the edge is helpful and if they cant be rehabilitated then why are they released? So the question is what do you do to them that puts safety of others at a priority without subjecting them to what is in essences double punishment. No answer for that sadly.

    Another point that was raised in an above post is that "sex offender" has become far too general a term. That kid in Georgia is a sex offender for having sex with a 15 or 16 year old girl all because he was 18. People hear the word sex offender and they automatically (and understandable) jump to the worst conclusions, rapist, child molesters when in fact it could just be something stupid like that kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    its a difficult situation in that sex offenders are clearly treated differently then any other criminal when they are no longer in prison.
    This is also what bothers me.
    Other criminals are equally likely to repeat their crimes.
    I don't see any reason to be more afraid of a convicted sex offender than, say, a convicted arsonist.
    So why the distinction?

    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    The neighbor with the girl should be able to trust whomever she leaves her daughter with.
    But they can't.
    Everybody could be a pedophile or potential sex offender, you can't 100% trust anyone not even your own partner.

    That's another issue I have with these signs:
    It lures parents into a false sense of security.
    But the next time they leave their daughters with somebody without any signs......

    I think there is also a responsibility of parents to not leave their children alone with other people too easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    since they are more often then not model inmates you really can't rehabilitate anything because its a "mental illness".
    Depends on what you call rehabilitation.
    "curing" the "mental illness" (or at least teaching them more self control) should of course be the focal point of rehabilitating sexual offenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post

    Depends on what you call rehabilitation.
    "curing" the "mental illness" (or at least teaching them more self control) should of course be the focal point of rehabilitating sexual offenders.
    i have not seen any studies that show this is even possible. like a disease, there is no way to get rid of it, and the only way to protect people from "sexual predators" is to lock them up forever ( i do not support that btw). their inability to rehabilitate is why they are excluded from most of the rehab programs in prison that cure deviant behavior. Trying to cure a child molestor is like trying to cure someone for being a homosexual, its not a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    i have not seen any studies that show this is even possible. like a disease, there is no way to get rid of it
    If diseases can't be cured,
    What the hell are we paying all those doctors and psychiatrists for?

    In my country we have special psychiatric prisons where criminals who commit crimes because of a mental condition are forced to undergo treatment.
    We call this "TBS"
    I'm not sure about sexual offenders specifically, but in general, psychiatric criminals who receive "TBS" are less likely to repeat their crimes than "healthy" criminals who committed the same crimes but were send to regular prison.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    This is also what bothers me.
    Other criminals are equally likely to repeat their crimes.
    I don't see any reason to be more afraid of a convicted sex offender than, say, a convicted arsonist.
    So why the distinction?
    Well its the nature of the crime most people deem crimes against people unable to defend or protect themselves and in the case of child molesters victims that truly are completely innocent. And Im not necessarily sure I disagree that it isnt a worse crime, I know its the parent in me that feels that way because I know that quite frankly if someone harmed my daughter Id kill them. So the problem is its generally a far more emotional crime then say getting mugged, stabbed etc. Part me (admittedly a very small part) knows it IS unfair they are treated differently but I have no idea what would be a better solution.

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