what happens if

[ServiusTheGreat]

what happens if you are playing as the seleucids and you defeat rome before the marian reform,do you get the legionarres or not

[Hurlbut]

Imitiation legionaires only become avialable if Rome achieved its Marian Reform. That's the only condition.

[DimeBagHo]

I haven't tried it, but I think the reforms might happen if the Independent Greeks or the Roman Rebels build a huge city in Italy. If you accidentally kill off the Romans too early you could try giving a city to the Greeks.

[CaesarVincens]

I don't think the Indie Greeks can trigger the reforms*, but the Roman Rebels should be able.

*Since their culture is no longer Roman.

[DimeBagHo]

I don't think the Indie Greeks can trigger the reforms*, but the Roman Rebels should be able.

*Since their culture is no longer Roman.

I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the trigger depends on the "romans_" prefix in the internal faction name, rather than the culture.

[CaesarVincens]

Ok, I thought it was tied to the culture, but that can be useful. I think EB might use it that way; the Seleucids and Romans have their internal names switched.