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    So I was once typing in google ''a world without Romania'' to see who the makers were of that video. I looked at the suggestions and saw ''a world without Islam''. I searched it and the reactions were mixed (mostly negative). Then I thought ''Hey , why don't I make a topic how the world would be without Islam?''

    Ps. I was actually suprised no one started a topic like this
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    Everyone would have someone else to hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Spamurai View Post
    Everyone would have someone else to hate.
    Lol, I wish I could rep you.

    Iraq and Afganistan would probably be of no concern to us at all and Africa whilst still poor would be that without many of it's wars.
    Lol, large parts of Africa that are riddled with endless wars are inhabited by Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Lol, large parts of Africa that are riddled with endless wars are inhabited by Christians.
    Even then, it's tribal, not religious.

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    People would need another avenue to express their anger at inequality and injustice in the world, and certain parts of the world would have to be more honest about why they want to abuse and subjugate women.

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    The biggest difference would be that western Europe never would have dominated the world since much of its technology came via Muslim states(through a series of different means).

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    Perhaps most of the little wars, and potentially the next world war, would not exist in the case of the former and not be thought of in the case of the latter, around our world today.

    Had it never come into existence all the peoples brought under it's sword or spell would be doing what they probably did before just as they wanted to do them without fear. Just think 9/11, London, Madrid and others wouldn't have happened at least in the name of Islam.

    Iraq and Afganistan would probably be of no concern to us at all and Africa whilst still poor would be that without many of it's wars. Yep, it is possible that the world might be a better place especially for all those women trod down by Islam over the centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    Perhaps most of the little wars, and potentially the next world war, would not exist in the case of the former and not be thought of in the case of the latter, around our world today.

    Had it never come into existence all the peoples brought under it's sword or spell would be doing what they probably did before just as they wanted to do them without fear. Just think 9/11, London, Madrid and others wouldn't have happened at least in the name of Islam.

    Iraq and Afganistan would probably be of no concern to us at all and Africa whilst still poor would be that without many of it's wars. Yep, it is possible that the world might be a better place especially for all those women trod down by Islam over the centuries.
    Your ignorance ans simplistic views never cease to surprise me.

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    Serious Spamurai,

    Simplistic but true nonetheless. As for my supposed ignorance could you please point it out rather than make ignorant assumption.

    But since you bring up the subject of ignorance please explain to me something about Islam that is better than any other religion that you think you know of. Better still show me that it is better than Christianity and I'll show you who is the ignorant one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    Perhaps most of the little wars, and potentially the next world war, would not exist in the case of the former and not be thought of in the case of the latter, around our world today.

    Had it never come into existence all the peoples brought under it's sword or spell would be doing what they probably did before just as they wanted to do them without fear. Just think 9/11, London, Madrid and others wouldn't have happened at least in the name of Islam.

    Iraq and Afganistan would probably be of no concern to us at all and Africa whilst still poor would be that without many of it's wars. Yep, it is possible that the world might be a better place especially for all those women trod down by Islam over the centuries.
    Apparently you know nothing of history as much of what you said has no relevance to Islam. Please, do not make such ignorant posts without evidence to back it up or at least have some point in your post and not just incoherent rambling, no offense. I just find it funny that you say the NEXT world war WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED YET would be PREVENTED if Islam never came to be. Anyone else think that is hilarious!!

    As for Christianity never wanting world dominance, then please explain the Native Americans who were either forced to convert to Christianity and conform to western culture and if not, kicked out of their own land. Christianity has forcibly converted hundreds of thousands if not millions. South American and much of North American Native Americans were forced to convert, so please, do not go around and say Christianity has never wanted, as you call it, "World Domination," because anyone who has even a little understanding of history KNOWS that Christians have forced conversions for hundreds of years.

    There are so many other things I could point out in your post that are just completely wrong, but I will save my breath and my time because I have better things to do. If you really want to learn about Islam please do so from books and not Evangelical Christian sites which say Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was the Anti-Christ. If you did know more you would see all the similarities between our two great religions and perhaps you may even see that we can coexist and help one another.

    Also Basics, I actually find it quite disturbing that a follower of Hazarat Isa(as) would say such things knowing full well that they are telling pure lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arto View Post
    So I was once typing in google ''a world without Romania'' to see who the makers were of that video. I looked at the suggestions and saw ''a world without Islam''. I searched it and the reactions were mixed (mostly negative). Then I thought ''Hey , why don't I make a topic how the world would be without Islam?''

    Ps. I was actually suprised no one started a topic like this
    Well it's impossible to say. Islamic culture preserved most of the ancient literature and knowledge we have today, and greatly advanced science, art, literature and architecture in their own right.

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    That's interesting basics. With this simplistic understanding of history, how do you explain the fact there were hundreds of thousands of wars before Islam even existed?

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    Ferrets54,

    This is very true but the question was regarding Islam and who can deny it's share of the bloodlust. That said it would be hard to argue whether they were the bloodiest of protagonists if we consider that the Roman Catholic Church had a head start on them although it could be inferred that they have seen nowadays some sort of light.

    Quite apart from any politically inspired notion of conquest throughout the ages these two are the foremost with ambition to convert and indeed dominate the world. I don't think these ambitions have gone away especially not with Islam. This is of course done in the name of a god quite outwith the God of the Scriptures and therefore can be classed as no god at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icefrisco View Post
    The biggest difference would be that western Europe never would have dominated the world since much of its technology came via Muslim states(through a series of different means).
    Well the muslim states didn't invented they simple took it from another nations (india,byzantium and even from classical greece) so they didnt make nothing new... so europe could simple do the same with or without muslim states....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ataegina View Post
    Well the muslim states didn't invented they simple took it from another nations (india,byzantium and even from classical greece) so they didnt make nothing new... so europe could simple do the same with or without muslim states....
    Byzantium took everything from Rome.

    Rome took everything from Greece.

    Greece took everything from ancient Mesopotamia.

    No, wait, that's not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    Byzantium took everything from Rome.

    Rome took everything from Greece.

    Greece took everything from ancient Mesopotamia.

    No, wait, that's not true.
    It's not like the Islam was around at the time...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    Byzantium took everything from Rome.

    Rome took everything from Greece.

    Greece took everything from ancient Mesopotamia.

    No, wait, that's not true.
    maybe you're wrong !

    rome have used alot from greece, cultural,technology etc

    in history isnt hard claim the credits regarding techonology or another stuff from another assimilated nations, and history records are plenty of examples, of the non-originality.

    so no wait....its easy taking credits from forgotten nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    Ferrets54,

    This is very true but the question was regarding Islam and who can deny it's share of the bloodlust. That said it would be hard to argue whether they were the bloodiest of protagonists if we consider that the Roman Catholic Church had a head start on them although it could be inferred that they have seen nowadays some sort of light.

    Quite apart from any politically inspired notion of conquest throughout the ages these two are the foremost with ambition to convert and indeed dominate the world. I don't think these ambitions have gone away especially not with Islam. This is of course done in the name of a god quite outwith the God of the Scriptures and therefore can be classed as no god at all.
    This could be applied to any organised religion.

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    one things for sure. ERE still holds a large swathe in ME and the Sassanids are still there in 7th century and maybe later

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    There wouldn't be as many problems in my opinion.

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