10th Legion.

[Blackshamrock.]

Hey guys just a small qustion. How far into Gaul must I go to get the 10th Legion Cisers own?.

[century x]

Heres wat u do. On the regions of Gaul. Right click on them until you see something that gives the description of a legion there. That should tell you. CLick on all of them till you find the legendary 10th legion.

Wait I think u have to own it. Try it anyway might work.

[Blackshamrock.]

Thanks m8.

[century x]

Tell me what u get if you don't mind.

[Blackshamrock.]

No hassel.

[snuggans]

which legion is this? sounds interesting..

[Blackshamrock.]

which legion is this? sounds interesting..

One of the best Know legions. Ciser fouht with them I gaul.
@ Centry It dident work m8 but i will let you no as soon as I get them.

[Badg3r]

*interesting fact?*
they were called the 10th because they were formed from Ceaser's old leagon and a discraced legion that was forced to beat 1/10 of it's own soldiers to death for running, and the resultant Legion was called the Tenth.

[pseudocaesar]

*interesting fact?*
they were called the 10th because they were formed from Ceaser's old leagon and a discraced legion that was forced to beat 1/10 of it's own soldiers to death for running, and the resultant Legion was called the Tenth.

Oh my god. Please please do not take anything in a Conn Iggulden book as remotely historically accurate. Conn Iggulden on novels is worse than Vanilla RTW for historical accuracy.

Besides, i like Legio XIII Gemina better. Caesar crossed the Rubicon with them. As Livy said, they were the legion with which Caesar assailed the world.

[century x]

I thought it was the 10th that crossed the Rubicon with him. Or was I mistaken?

[aberax22]

does the imperial palace actually make a change?

[Nellup]

does the imperial palace actually make a change?

How do you mean? Do you mean does it trigger the reforms?m If so, then yes, but only if built in Tarentum, Croton, Patavium, Mediolanum or Byzantium

[bucellarii]

Good books to read regarding some legions histories, are the series by Stephen Dando Collins "Caesar's Legion" (10th), "Nero's killing Machine" (14th), "Cleopatra's Kidnappers" (6th), etc.

These are accurate histories of these legions, but written in an exciting, interesting manner.

Whilst I agree that Dando Collins’ history of Legio X might be an ‘exciting’ read this author should be approached with extreme caution. As I have posted elsewhere his work is poorly footnoted and tends to portray conjecture and speculation as absolute historical fact.

The exact details of when and where Legio X was raised cannot be stated with any certainty. Therefore it is prudent to simply say that Legio X was established in 59 or earlier.

....he (i.e. Caesar) was appointed governor of both Cisalpine and Transalpine Gaul for five years, with the command of four legions.

App BC ii. 13

Thus it was that the multitude granted him the government of Illyricum and of Cisalpine Gaul with three legions for five years, while the senate entrusted him in addition with Transalpine Gaul and another legion.

Dio xxxviii. 8.5

See also BG i.7 and i.10

There were 15 legions in service in 59 BCE (See Table XIV P A Brunt Italian Manpower). The sources do not break down the deployment of these legions by individual number. However it is generally reckoned that Caesar inherited the VII, VIII, IX and X; described as ‘four veteran legions’ during the battle at Bibracte (BG i.24)

According to Brunt the VII, VIII and IX most probably served under Q. Metellus Celer during the Bellum Catilinae i.e.

Quintus Metellus Celer, however, was stationed in Picenum with three legions

Sall. Cat. 57.2

These are clearly the three veteran legions Caesar found in Cisalpina in 58

Brunt Italian Manpower

Brunt goes on to argue the X was most probably stationed in the Transalpina in 59

The sources indicate the antecedents of the Transalpina legion date back to 64 when the propraetor L. Murena held a levy in Umbria on the way to his province.

But still Lucius Murena's conduct in his province procured him the affection of many influential men, and a great accession of reputation. On his road he held a levy of troops in Umbria.

Cic. Mur. 42

According to Brunt this legion will have subsequently served under C. Pomptinus praetor of 63, who crushed the Allobrogic revolt in 62-61

Praetor Gaius Pomptinus subdued the rebellious Allobrogians near Solo.

Liv. Per. 102a

The potentially spurious Spanish antecedents ascribed to the X by Dando Collins rest on Plutarch:

At any rate, as soon as he reached Spain he set himself to work, and in a few days raised ten cohorts in addition to the twenty which were there before. Then he led his army against the Callaici and Lusitani, overpowered them, and marched on as far as the outer sea, subduing their tribes which before were not obedient to Rome

Plut. Caes 12.1

However it is unlikely the ten cohorts mentioned here comprised the X. It is more probable these cohorts were raised from locally settled Romans and natives in order to form an irregular legio vernacula. This force was then deployed to supplement the regular garrison of Ulterior in its campaign against the Callaici and Lusitani.

Of course one might make a case that the extract from Plutarch can be used to posit the X began its life as a legio vernacula in a similar manner to Legio V. Unfortunately though Dando Collins fails to explore the alternative, possibly more plausible evidence posted above, in an effort arrive at a more balanced conclusion.

Dando Collins presents us with a fun read but ultimately fails to convince he is an historian who can be trusted to portray the past with the integrity and impartiality of say a P A Brunt or H H Scullard.

[Badg3r]

Oh my god. Please please do not take anything in a Conn Iggulden book as remotely historically accurate. Conn Iggulden on novels is worse than Vanilla RTW for historical accuracy.

Besides, i like Legio XIII Gemina better. Caesar crossed the Rubicon with them. As Livy said, they were the legion with which Caesar assailed the world.

wow, i didn't think it would have been that bad... Still theyre good books at least, also where can you recruit the XIII?

[Brusilov]

wow, i didn't think it would have been that bad... Still theyre good books at least, also where can you recruit the XIII?

The XIII Gemima can be recruited in Bononia. You can find this by either putting your mouse over the region in the radar map or my using the right mouse and clicking on the region in the strategy map.

[century x]

So it was the 13th. HAHAHAH

[Brusilov]

The XIII Gemima can be recruited in Bononia. You can find this by either putting your mouse over the region in the radar map or my using the right mouse and clicking on the region in the strategy map.

I've also found that the XIII Gemima can be recruited in Aquincum (according to the method I've previously outlined).

[Octavius-Augustus]

Isn't the Xth trained in Capua?

@Badg3r: By the way, where did you get this info? The only thing I knew about the founding of the Xth was this:

The Tenth was founded in Spain by Gaius Julius Caesar in 61 BC. It joined the Pompey-raised 8th and 9th legions serving at the time under Caesar and soon began campaigning with them. It chose the bull as its emblem, because of the month the Tenth was mustered. For its first action, Caesar would send them to western Spain to help subdue hostile tribes.

[Badg3r]

It was from these books called 'Emperor' i dont know how historicaly accurate they are, i will try and find out for you. and by the way he means the legion call the 'Tenth' rather than the actualy XX legion.

also, on a related note, the legion eagel (on the forums) for adding rep only apears under my name, so i can't + any one elce. do you have to have rep your self first to be able to + to others?

[Caius Antonius]

also, on a related note, the legion eagel (on the forums) for adding rep only apears under my name, so i can't + any one elce. do you have to have rep your self first to be able to + to others?

You need to have more posts, 50 I think, in order to give reputation to people.