way (exploit?) to make huge amounts of money

[hachel]

hi there,
In 5.0 or before that the enemy never seemed to agree to a ceasefire, but since recently when I'm at war with someone and it looks like I'm winning I offer them a ceasefire in exchange for one or two settlements and about 50k worth of money, which they always accept happily.
Then I attack them just to offer them a ceasefire again and make them pay again.
This works quite often, even though I haven't really tried to exploit it (so I dont know in which condition the enemy accepts it and when not).
In 5 rounds I took 6 settlements and about 100.000k of byzantine like that.

cheers,

hachel

[Echad]

Sell enemy your emty settlement and take it back the same turn + sacking if you are sesperate... Sell how much you can retook right now and then do the ceasefire trick. Repeat until fried.

[evenflowjimbo]

Sell enemy your emty settlement and take it back the same turn + sacking if you are sesperate... Sell how much you can retook right now and then do the ceasefire trick. Repeat until fried.

Feel bad for the poor souls that move to that settlement haha.

Don't mind the pile of dead bodies, you won't be here long...

[Allu X]

This happens alot with map information too!

I have alot of screenshot of it but meh, too tired...

for example - I would offer England,

Map information
I will give 1000 florins



Map information

--- press offer...

We will give 21504 as a gift...

wth?

__________ Next turn ______

Same scenario...

etc

-- This needs to be changed

[Willor]

Maybe you shouldnt accept it then? Isnt it better to cheat instead if you want to do it?

[DeaDBolT]

True but that's not really the point. These things are just bugs/exploits that shouldn't be in there. in fact i noticed all these things and just use them if im to lazy to conquer all of a factions settlements.
I wanted to make a thread about it, but i was just to lazy to register/post until yesterday.

[CDMan477]

Agreed, I play SS 5.1 in hotseat with two friends. One of my friends ability to play the game is laughable at best, considering he can barely control his armies in battle. However, despite this, he was able to conquer the holy land with the Templars one city at a time by attacking factions and then simultaneously declaring peace the same turn and getting either the Turks or Egypt to secede a city each time. Then I have to sit here and listen to his smack about how good he is at the game apparently. I tried messing with the descr_diplomacy file later but I haven't dealt with that file before and my changes seemed to have little effect. Anyone more familiar with that file who has personally modded it to make diplomacy favor the AI perhaps?

[Mith84]

@cdman477

i suggest switching campaign difficulty on hard, and on late era. The AI seems to always dislike you in some way, so in example they don't always accept trade rights and map information for their map information.

And the AI will not accept a ceasefire that easily, and as far as i have seen they do not give away their settlements.

Playing on medium will always turn out like you wrote, you attack a faction, and if the faction is in war with more than one faction already will accept a ceasefire with wathever condition you propose them (within reason of course).

[CDMan477]

@cdman477

i suggest switching campaign difficulty on hard, and on late era. The AI seems to always dislike you in some way, so in example they don't always accept trade rights and map information for their map information.

And the AI will not accept a ceasefire that easily, and as far as i have seen they do not give away their settlements.

Playing on medium will always turn out like you wrote, you attack a faction, and if the faction is in war with more than one faction already will accept a ceasefire with wathever condition you propose them (within reason of course).

I see what you're saying Mith but I haven't played a TW game on anything but VH/VH in as long as I can remember unless the creator of the mod suggested playing on something else. Not to mention that playing hotseat in the late era requires making changes to some files which I honestly don't feel like doing every time I want to switch back and forth between eras. Thank you for the suggestion though. Perhaps I will continue to look into this myself.

[Echad]

It still is very exploitable on Very Hard... And we really should have such thread, that will document the exploits - NOT for cheaters, but for modders that can try to fix it.