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    Then were are the black jews and black Mary?



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    Who cares?

    We know historically he most closely resembeled modern Arabs but that is it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man With No Name View Post
    Who cares?

    We know historically he most closely resembeled modern Arabs but that is it.
    I know that but Obama's racist preacher brought up this black Jesus myth and I thought it fit to point out that they only claim Jesus to be black and no one else.



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    The neo-Nazis of the world would be pissed?

    Seriously, though, why does it matter? OHMYGAWDHEWASBLACK! Big deal. Nothing should change in your religion.
    Armed with your TOMMY GUN, you are one hard boiled lug. Nobody mess with this tough guy, see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertinator View Post
    The neo-Nazis of the world would be pissed?

    Seriously, though, why does it matter? OHMYGAWDHEWASBLACK! Big deal. Nothing should change in your religion.
    Nothing short of my own thoughts and ideas would change my religion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertinator View Post
    The neo-Nazis of the world would be pissed?
    Well they are already on the border with that.
    Either they aren't christians because well Jesus was a jew and they hate jews after all or they simply stick their heads in the sand and claim Jesus was a blond haired, blue eyed aryan that wasn't jewish the slightest, making neo-nazis that go into that group look even more silly then they already are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man With No Name View Post
    Who cares?

    We know historically he most closely resembeled modern Arabs but that is it.


    But isn't it portrayed as a whiter than milk white in most of the statues of Jesus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth View Post
    But isn't it portrayed as a whiter than milk white in most of the statues of Jesus?
    Sure. And in China he's portrayed as Chinese. In India he's depicted with the blue skin of an avatar. In northern Australia he's depicted as an Aborigine.

    So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThiudareiksGunthigg View Post
    Sure. And in China he's portrayed as Chinese. In India he's depicted with the blue skin of an avatar. In northern Australia he's depicted as an Aborigine.

    So?


    Just curiosity, no catch here. and just thought people would stick up to the original image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth View Post
    Just curiosity, no catch here. and just thought people would stick up to the original image.
    There was no "original image". Judaism discourages images of their holy men or human images as decorations at all. There are no depictions at all of Jesus from the earliest period of Christianity. When we start getting images of him in paintings in the catacombs and in later Roman church decorations he's depicted in the style of a Roman of the time - clean-shaven and with short hair. So from the very first depictions of him he was already being shown as being of the culture in which that art was produced.

    The real Jesus would have been bearded with dark brown skin and short hair. Long hair was considered an example of Greek decadence and was only adopted by rich Hellenised Jews, not devout peasants like Jesus and his followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man With No Name View Post
    Who cares?

    We know historically he most closely resembeled modern Arabs but that is it.
    We don't know 'historically' if Jesus even existed in the first place. 'Who cares?' indeed!

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    Blacks believe these things just to make themselvs feel better, well, only Blacks who have inferiority symptom.
    Last edited by Aziel; March 20, 2008 at 02:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azael33 View Post
    Blacks believe these things just to make themselvs feel better, well, only Blacks who have inferiority symptom.
    :hmmm:..mmm..interesting point...wait, what i mean to say is WTF?




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    Indeed the only description found in all the Bible is that afforded to Him by Isaiah where He is described as having no comeliness lest any desire Him, perhaps even the suggestion that He may have had some sort of disfigurement but certainly no other description as to facial expression.

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    If Jesus really was a Jew who lived in the 1st century Palestine then almost 100% he probably had dark complexion.

    By the way, according to my occasional visits to Stormfront.org, many neo-nazis denounce Christianity due to this fact.


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    Yup, Jesus was a jew. Jewy Jew. A Jew full of Jewdom.

    ...King of the Jews, in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    If Jesus really was a Jew who lived in the 1st century Palestine then almost 100% he probably had dark complexion.

    By the way, according to my occasional visits to Stormfront.org, many neo-nazis denounce Christianity due to this fact.
    The comment about Stormfront is true to a fault. Have you ever tried to argue religion with an "Odinist"? Trying to convince them that they are worshipping a god who, according to North European beliefs, died in the fire that consumed Valhalla, is usually an exercise in futility!

    Among 1st Century Jews, it is remotely possible that Jesus could have had fair skin, red hair, blue eyes, or green eyes. That doesn't mean that He wouldn't have been Semitic, however. But I seriously suspect that Jesus was dark-complexioned, with dark brown or black hair, and brown eyes ... like almost everyone else, there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    The comment about Stormfront is true to a fault. Have you ever tried to argue religion with an "Odinist"? Trying to convince them that they are worshipping a god who, according to North European beliefs, died in the fire that consumed Valhalla, is usually an exercise in futility!

    Among 1st Century Jews, it is remotely possible that Jesus could have had fair skin, red hair, blue eyes, or green eyes. That doesn't mean that He wouldn't have been Semitic, however. But I seriously suspect that Jesus was dark-complexioned, with dark brown or black hair, and brown eyes ... like almost everyone else, there.
    Not necessarily. Remember that in that era, some Romans started to convert Judaism. Also, the Jewish population already at these times were mixed in the way they looked; The Edomite were forcibly converted to Judaism, and if their description of the way they look acorrding to the Torah, they were pretty light skinned, since acorrding to the Torah commentators such as Rashi, "Red" also meant they had a redness in their faces. Also, the Jews of the Galilee looked a bit diffrent, since they were also mixed with converts of Phonicia and from a Jewish kingdom that was created in southern-Syria.

    You need to remember Judaism was a missionery religion until 135 C.E.
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    Jesus Christ would have had an olive-skinned complexion, dark straight or curly hair (either black or a very dark brown of some sort), and brown eyes.

    Jesus didn't look like what sub-Saharans look like.


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    Chinese Jesus (Jesus as depicted in China)



    Jesus as a Copt (probably most accurate)

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