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    Icon3 Why conversion??

    From people of christianity, Judean and Islam. Why all want to convert? Is it because you like me or hate me? Do you feel alone, or the more you are, stronger you are to overcast other religion?

    What is it to you?
    I believe that to meet the challenges of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not just for oneself, one's own family or nation, but for the benefit of all humankind. Universal responsibility is the key to human survival. It is the best foundation for world peace.





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    To save your soul, of course.

    First they have to convince you that hell exists, but then they will save you from it. Or rely on bribery/greed with some heaven concept. But it's all for your own good, you understand. Of course. Obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummagumma View Post
    To save your soul, of course.

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    They want to save you soo bad they will kill you if you don't let them save you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post


    They want to save you soo bad they will kill you if you don't let them save you.
    True! They love us so much!
    I believe that to meet the challenges of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not just for oneself, one's own family or nation, but for the benefit of all humankind. Universal responsibility is the key to human survival. It is the best foundation for world peace.





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    They know what you need better than you do. Live with it.
    One thing is for certain: the more profoundly baffled you have been in your life, the more open your mind becomes to new ideas.
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    Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.

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    Conversion seems to be like a virus, once you're convert you thing you got it all right, and the contamination can begin.
    I believe that to meet the challenges of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not just for oneself, one's own family or nation, but for the benefit of all humankind. Universal responsibility is the key to human survival. It is the best foundation for world peace.





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    for me? logic reason. common sense





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansa musa View Post
    for me? logic reason. common sense
    It must be more than that, we are talking about fate here. Logic, reason, common sense? Nah.
    I believe that to meet the challenges of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not just for oneself, one's own family or nation, but for the benefit of all humankind. Universal responsibility is the key to human survival. It is the best foundation for world peace.





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    yep common sense. i'd probably have become an atheist if it wasn't for islam





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansa musa View Post
    yep common sense. i'd probably have become an atheist if it wasn't for islam
    This is a good answer, life experience help to bring some life and knowlegable belief throught religion and way of life.

    Islam answered to your questions, who were empty due to your lifetime experience.
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    I believe that to meet the challenges of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not just for oneself, one's own family or nation, but for the benefit of all humankind. Universal responsibility is the key to human survival. It is the best foundation for world peace.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansa musa View Post
    yep common sense. i'd probably have become an atheist if it wasn't for islam

    Well, at least one merit of islam
    Just kidding.
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    Religion is about one's station with the god that he or she supposedly follows. In the case of Christianity it is totally about being brought from a state of ungodliness to a position where God has nothing against you in any shape or form so that in the next life you may join Him.

    Men may say that they convert from one belief to another and why not since that has nothing to do with Christianity. Why, because in the first place by that belief none can do these things by themselves for it is God who chooses not man. There is a distinct set of procedures that only God has the means to see enacted.

    Jesus Christ said that no-one may see the kingdom of God unless he or she is born again. Now what man has that capability? Being born again or regenerate is an act of God on the sinner once brought to a condition where he or she knows his or her unworthiness before God laying bare his or her inability to make any excuse or reason for his or her state.

    Then and only then can regeneration take place. It takes no more than a moment, the time it takes to switch on a light in a darkened room and is the most privileged state that mankind could experience if only they believed that it could happen to them at any time. It is called being Justified by faith.

    Not the faith of man since man doesn't have faith, rather the faith of Jesus Christ being unto all and upon all them that now do believe. That is the same faith with which He believed God that He would not see death just as we will not see death but enter immediately into His kingdom when our time is up on this earth.

    There isn't another thing, that is followed, that has the benefits or experiences, that belief in Jesus Christ the Lord brings to mankind especially since it has all been done by grace freely given. No merit, no works, no striving to appease anyone, especially not God.

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    Its a pyramid scheme by converting and spreading the word they get extra brownie points from the big guy so when it comes to you and there is no one left to convert you will have to get on by been a good person (and a believer)
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    conversion brings about the end of all things in both islam and christianity.

    there needs to be a gathering and a great war for the messiah to come, and choose the righteous.

    both christianity and islam claim Jesus will return and lead the army of the faithful against the enemies of god on earth. In islam he falls from the sky and splits the mt. of olives proclaiming "There is No God, But God" (correct me if Im wrong) in christianity he makes himself apparent to all men at once (over all the earth) and proclaims judgement, and in both the dead rise.

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