Tibet

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Does Tibetans have any future ?

They are now the minority in their own land due to the chineese politic of overwhelming the population with numbers of imported chineese inhabitants as well supressing any rebellion with force ....

Is in your opinion any way that Tibet will be freed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzH77Cg2TyA

[bushbush]

just remind you, a lot of death and loss of property are done by Tibetan mobs attacking Han Chinese.

plus, we already have a thread.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=152320

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Sorry but thats a different subject and different question , read well befoure answering please..... , second why Han Chineese? is it an ethnicity that brings back to the AD Han Empire naming or what?

third the violences made by chineese on the Tibetans are way beyond possibility to enumerate.

[bushbush]

Sorry but thats a different subject and different question , read well befoure answering please..... , second why Han Chineese? is it an ethnicity that brings back to the AD Han Empire naming or what?

actually Han Chinese is an ethincity..one of 56 ethnic groups in China...just like Tibetans.

third the violences made by chineese on the Tibetans are way beyond possibility to enumerate.

maybe by the government, but do those innocent Hans deserve to die? those people just came looking for jobs and opportunities. They were told there are more opportunities here than in crowded coastal regions.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Anyway the topic question is another , please stay on topic ....

[bushbush]

Anyway the topic question is another , please stay on topic ....

oops sorry.

My assessment?

another cultural conquest for China...like Mongolia...like Manchuria...like Southern China (Chinese civilization was born near the yellow river in the North)...

Chinese will just outnumber Tibetans in a few more generations. No one will stand up for these Tibetans...I mean which leader of the world in the right mind will invade China just to rescue Tibet?

[AqD]

maybe by the government, but do those innocent Hans deserve to die? those people just came looking for jobs and opportunities. They were told there are more opportunities here than in crowded coastal regions.

We never ask the tibets before we came there and took their land, their independency, and their natural resource and jobs. We made ourself kind of robbers and you're saying "we're innocent!"? It's just as stupid and wrong as the britons tried to keep ireland.

Surely it's not only done by the PRC government, but hundreds of years ago by Qing - that's probably why they came to take tibet back in the first place. But it's not ours and the tibetan people don't want us to rule them.

Now, before it's too late, the government can stop acting like an old backward empire, and revert this mistake.

[Chlodwig I.]

Yeah #
we sold our morals and ethics to china for cheap labour

china has a lot of ethnicities don't know the exact number
but indespite of this more then 90% of the chinese are of Han ethnicity

[danzig]

Yeah #
we sold our morals and ethics to china for cheap labour

Sadly true.

[bushbush]

Sadly true.

oh come on..i am sure before the WEst knows about China..the West was a paradise full of morally upright and righteous people who never invade, never conquer, never murder or never even murmur a foul word..

[danzig]

oh come on..i am sure before the WEst knows about China..the West was a paradise full of morally upright and righteous people who never invade, never conquer, never murder or never even murmur a foul word..

That isnt the point, the point is the west has basically turned a blind eye to it. This isnt about comparing, no one is innocent obviously including the west but we have indeed sold ourselves for cheap labor. Its about our short comings not China's.

[bushbush]

That isnt the point, the point is the west has basically turned a blind eye to it. This isnt about comparing, no one is innocent obviously including the west but we have indeed sold ourselves for cheap labor. Its about our short comings not China's.

the West turns a blind eye on China's craps, China turns a blind eye on West's craps.

everyone happy.

[ChineseManchurian]

That isnt the point, the point is the west has basically turned a blind eye to it. This isnt about comparing, no one is innocent obviously including the west but we have indeed sold ourselves for cheap labor. Its about our short comings not China's.

Again you're being ignorant, if you compare the standard of living for Chinese labors with some third world nation, or even some countries in Eastern Europe, Chinese labours have a better standard of living. Anything can be short and expensive in China, but the food price is way below the world market price which is the key role played in the controversy called as "Cheap Labour".

I guess most ppl from Michigan and Ohio are cheap too, just because they're labours doesn't mean they've got no life.

[Osceola]

Does independence automatically mean freedom? Do you know what kind of system Tibetans lived under before the Chinese came?

Does having your tongue pulled out of your head by a Lama for talking to loosely sound free to you?

[Carach]

i dont believe tibet will ever gain independence....

I do believe that china needs to become fractured (multiple countries) however - simply in the interests of the rest of the world with a balance of power etc

[bushbush]

i dont believe tibet will ever gain independence....

I do believe that china needs to become fractured (multiple countries) however - simply in the interests of the rest of the world with a balance of power etc

fractured?

difficult to do, historically, Chinese people in different regions all have a tendency of desiring unification.

plus..the culture and ethnicity is too homogeneous to become fractured..you got 90% of Hans essentially speak and write and think the same way...and 10% of minorities whose only difference is the label on their identification papers.

[Carach]

fractured?

difficult to do

indeed.

[PurpleScotch]

i dont believe tibet will ever gain independence....

I do believe that china needs to become fractured (multiple countries) however - simply in the interests of the rest of the world with a balance of power etc

What balance of power?? The USA (despite China being united) is the most powerful nation in the face of the Earth and you want China to fracture to balance power in the world?

Come on, it's about time we get a new superpower, and if China is the next, so be it!

[Nick_Since_1985]

The USA is the most powerful nation in the face of the Earth...

[Carach]

What balance of power?? The USA (despite China being united) is the most powerful nation in the face of the Earth and you want China to fracture to balance power in the world?

Come on, it's about time we get a new superpower, and if China is the next, so be it!

china have the potential to be well beyond america's power......