How to make a Campaign map for NTW2

[Elzabar]

Hey all, I'm not really a modder or anything, but I just had a thought.
I noticed that if a unit has higher melee attack than it does missile attack, in the RTW engine, I think it is classed as a melee unit. But, if it has the option to fire, it will.

Sorry if I'm getting a little bit confusing, but I'll try my best to be understood.

If a unit has say 11 melee attack and only 10 missile attack, then in NTW2 it will fire a couple of shots and then probably bayonet charge. But if it has 10 melee and 12 missile attack (Redcoats) then it will sit there and fire away. If I understood correctly, what stops the whole campaign for NTW2 thing is the skirmish mode thing and the AI not being able to comprehend gunpowder. But, if all units had higher melee attack than missile attack they would fire a few shots and then charge. Somebody please tell me if this could possibly work?

[Samuel Adams]

Play a few rounds of SP against an AI with stats as you suggested. Play it about 5 times, get a feel for an 'average' ai behavior, and then go with it. I doubt it would work, but feel free to post your results here.

[Empress Meg]

Several scores of testing rounds were done when first testing NTW2, things like balance, historical accuracy, fun and general handling and play all had important parts to act out. While I am sure that you believe your idea has some merit, and I'm sure that it does, there appears to be little in the way of improving the AI when dealing with line and column warfare with firearms.

Once the impotent AI showed itself, NTW2 became a mod just for MP games. In the four years that NTW2 constantly molded and changed there have been little advances in the core engine of the game that we as modders can tap into. So MP is still the only way to truly play a game of NTW2. I won't try to deter you from testing your own theories, but I can assure you that they have been tested before by Lordz and community members in so many different guises and concepts that one marvels still at the desire of those folks who want to play against the AI.

As always mod at your own risk and be sure to make backup copies of whatever it is you are moding. I also invite you to take a look at some of the community's tests on our forums.

Devoirs The Empress

[Elzabar]

I wasnt going to try it out, I love NTW2 as it is, but I was wondering if anyone had any idea if it would work.

I understand that you Lordz would make a campaign if it were possible without making the game worse.

[Empress Meg]

No, try it out by all means, please do. I'm just giving you forewarning that there's nothing we have discovered tha allows for the AI to work properly withouth heavy scripting. Fiddling with stats don't do all that much but make units rout or stay in battle longer.

Devoirs The Empress

[ljuboja]

whats this got to do with campaign map?

[Elzabar]

whats this got to do with campaign map?

Well yeah I was meant to just put Campaign, but I accidentally put map

[Erwin Rommel]

i tried MMS mud so that i can have imperial legions as my army in a campaign map

boy it was aweosme.........too bad my opponents are just plain swords and spear

the most interesting part was near the desert........it felt like really awesome like that movie FOur Feathers were i have to form square while parthians charge out at me

oh yeah........Imperial Guard performed poorly when confornted with horse archers...............

[Elzabar]

boy it was aweosme.........too bad my opponents are just plain swords and spear

Sweeeett, sounds like fun.

[Erwin Rommel]

yeah.....imagine those legions being shoot to pieces while trying to throw a pila

ONE THIG IS FUNNY THOUGH

out of curiosity...i challanged a full stack imperial guard while me is a one legion cohort...............

I FORMED TESTUDO then they opened fire

i never lossed a unit.......

but after a couple of really full volleys it was kinda funny as a smoke covered the whole shields.........they just bayoneted me after that

[Elzabar]

lol so I'm guessing you lost that one?

[Erwin Rommel]

DUH after i DE-testudo

[Elzabar]

DUH after i DE-testudo

Shouldve just used your Flame Alchemy thingy.
That would win the day...

[Erwin Rommel]

i cant snap my fingers through the speaker.....you know

[Elzabar]

hmm fair enough...

[Marku]

*uses alchemy to splash water on mustang*

got no more tricks up your sleeves Col mustang!

has the NTW guys decided to move to med2 or empires?

[Elzabar]

*uses alchemy to splash water on mustang*

got no more tricks up your sleeves Col mustang!

has the NTW guys decided to move to med2 or empires?

You never can tell with the Colonel. He's watching us all....

The latest thingy (just had a mindblank and cant think of the word...) of NTW2, NTW2 1.0 is the last Napoleonic mod (by The Lordz) for Rome Total War, but no doubt they'll keep making mods... who knows what for :hmmm:

[Erwin Rommel]

takes out matches then strikes them igniting flame taking Marku at one second

"All warfare is based on deception, think your enemy has a weakness, he'll just use it as a strength"

nah

i think not, after all........theres ETW now

hey i got an idea. why dont you guys JUST replace RTW units to NTW units, regardless of year or its faction or its time span. just RTW vanilla campaign with same factions only different units

although this will be unhistorical, its one last desperate manouever just for a campaign game

[Elzabar]

"All warfare is based on deception, think your enemy has a weakness, he'll just use it as a strength"

Ahh, so you are trained by master Sun Tzu...?

[Erwin Rommel]

yes..........no wait

i just read about his sayings.........while in high school (boast alert)