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    China as the sole superpower
    what kinda effects d'ye think it'd have on the world? politically, linguistically, socially, culturally, militarily etc
    (we're assuming that america doesnt have the clout it does today, and also that this scenario is taking place some 20+ yrs into the future).
    how would the chinese government react towards the EU?, Africa?, or even Australia?
    would the chinese maintain a traditional policy of isolationism?

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    China would maybe be agressive in world trade.

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    Bye any hope of Lassiez-Faire Capitalism.
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    So what about the US or the US don't count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljan Arslan View Post
    So what about the US or the US don't count?
    I'm assuming America has collapsed for some reason, maybe in a tragic Atlas Shrugged fashion, I don't know I'm just assuming America is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I'm assuming America has collapsed for some reason, maybe in a tragic Atlas Shrugged fashion, I don't know I'm just assuming America is dead.
    If the US no longer exists, China cannot be a superpower. Loss of the US markets will affect every country, but China especially since it depends so much on foreign markets and foreign investors. If either (or more likely both) go at the same time - watch China collapse like a pack of cards.

    This is why people need not irrationally fear China as some kind of "evil communist superpower". The truth is that it is not in China's interests to be (overly) agressive towards the west.
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    Maybe from the rich not paying their share and letting us go to waste (like whats happening right now, pluws welfare needs to bscaled down).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljan Arslan View Post
    (like whats happening right now, pluws welfare needs to bscaled down).
    Could you try to type this again? I don't know what you're talking about.

    Also does'nt matter, a fall of America still results in the death of Lassiez-Faire capitalism.
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    I want America to continue for Hegemoinization.
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    Politically: Western World stunned. China takes Asia under it's wing.
    Linguistically: More people will learn Chinese
    Culturally: More Chinese/Eastern oriented.
    Militarily: Depends, possible nuclear war
    Ideologically: Death of the heart of Libertarianism, Objectivism, Conservatism, and Lassiez-Faire Capitalism.
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    I personally wish to see America become a servicist state, because then I feel we could have a chance of defeating China in war, as well as continuing to flourish.
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    Ideologically: Death of the heart of Libertarianism, Objectivism, Conservatism, and Lassiez-Faire Capitalism.
    If I'm not mistaken, China, although it calls itself Communist, is probably more Capitalist than the US. Pretty sure on this, correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertinator View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, China, although it calls itself Communist, is probably more Capitalist than the US. Pretty sure on this, correct me if I'm wrong.
    Actually, you're wrong

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ublic_of_China

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    Well Capitalism as it actually works in practice.

    Not as the Ivory towers like to envision it.
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    Depends on the people running China. As I assume China may turn to capitalism in the future and become more democratic. Something like a bloodless revolution. They can't become a superpower if they keep the isolationism policy anyway.
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    Capitalism=/= Democracy

    Just like to point that tidbit out...there are several political maneuvers that also take place due to the added economic prosperity that creates a new class system. Currently China is keeping its currency waaaaaay lower than it should be, and as such stifles the creation of democracy in the country. It appears inevitable, though, that China will become a democracy. However, to become a superpower it will require an armed force rivaling the US, which will take a minimum of around 50 years--just for the navy.

    Anyway, I highly doubt that China will be any different than the USA, or even the USSR. The new boss, same as the old boss...
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    And the US won't give up, also bad economic times lead to Parties that a much better in my opinion(Servicistism!)
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    To become the world's sole superpower, china must build the world's largest fleet (or be able to combat the world's largest fleet).

    As the world's superpower, I anticipate Africa will rapidly industrialize, feeding the Chinese markets with cheap goods, most Asian nations will become 'feeder' colonies of China, providing cheap resources and food. And china will likely begin to secure its economic interests around the world, supporting rebels and governments as it pleases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    To become the world's sole superpower, china must build the world's largest fleet (or be able to combat the world's largest fleet).

    As the world's superpower, I anticipate Africa will rapidly industrialize, feeding the Chinese markets with cheap goods, most Asian nations will become 'feeder' colonies of China, providing cheap resources and food. And china will likely begin to secure its economic interests around the world, supporting rebels and governments as it pleases.


    Makes me remember a certain state in the world. Wonder which one is it, hmmm....
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    Sorry AMerican haters you'll just have another one of us.
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