Need quick help

[Mauzeer]

I am playing vanilla (no patched) m/h as Venice...from the beggining i am in war with at least 3-5 factions at the time :hmmm:...but thing that's really bother me is that my royal family is dying ... EVERY single member has adultress retinue + most of them have traits which further decrease chance of having
children ...is there any immidiete action possible to save my family , if not is there any thread which helps in menaging royal family (i was looking for it but couldn't find it , this forum is HUGE )

THX in advance ,

[Captain Spanky]

Hmm... well, you could go rebel hunting with armies without generals. Hopefully you should get "Man of the Hour", and recieve a general for your troubles. Theres always your princesses too, if you have any, they can go steal rival factions family members.

Apart from that, theres the expensive and often unsuccesful bribery attempts, or just waiting till the game adopts someone new in.

[Idaeus]

I thought that if you run out of family members you loose?

[pwijnands]

I'd use cheats to get rid of the ancillaries (remove_ancillary this adultress_foreign)and add some fertility traits (give_trait this Fertile 3).

[Mauzeer]

THX Captain Spanky and pwijnands ... i rather don't use cheats but this thing is really annoying ... does some patch fix this stupid retinues traits stuff

[pwijnands]

THX Captain Spanky and pwijnands ... i rather don't use cheats but this thing is really annoying ... does some patch fix this stupid retinues traits stuff

The patch doesn't fix those retinues. The game just uses bad conditions for acquiring the foreign adultress:
- general is in enemy lands
- general is married
- general has spent 4 or more turns in the same region
- he does not have the Loyal trait
- he has less then 3 chivalry

This means that if you have a dreaded general who is besieging a settlement for a longer period will get this retinue (5% chance each turn the conditions are met).

[Schrödinger]

I'm not sure, but its way worth patching anyway.

[Heavy_]

your best bet is yes, rebel hunting

[Archus]

bribe enemy generals, dont go for the guys with no loyalty thats just silly, get the ones with 3-4 loyalty.

[Mauzeer]

THX all for help..i've found nice thread about retinues..i've finished venice campaing while ago.now i am playing england on vh/vh and have outstanding playing experience so far .alone agains all of christianty with at least one heroic victory per turn...longbows+armoured swordsmen rock

P.S.about topic :yes 2 men of hour saved my day and became monster dreaded generals

[theflautist82]

Ofcourse the game will take care of it with men of homour but it will reduce your nobility. It is wise to keep your blood pure from the begining of the game. Care who you mary when you mary to whom you mary your daughters before they pass the fertility.