Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 33

Thread: Irrational Fear of Numbers

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1

    Default Irrational Fear of Numbers



    Since we all heard about weird stories of people avoiding anything with the "666" label, and other related ones, this is self-explanatory.

    What is, exactly, the source of so much hysteria behind an innocent number? Nobody has ever died for writing "666", non-Christian cultures have no problem with it, and life has been normal as ever since the book of Revelation. It seems to me that the blind desire to follow everything what is written causes people to fear this, irrationally, inventing thousands of childish tales of terror to scare the naive and the believers.

    Now, if people can explain the rationale behind fearing this specific number, apart from "it is written in the Revelation", and explain the controversy running around about the true "number of the beast", 616 or 666, and finally give a reasonable explanation of how people will die and squirm in stakes for writing this, then I might change my mind. It could be a different biblical interpretation, or so, something remotely valid as a reason to believe this number is bad. I suppose there won't be any, truly.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

  2. #2
    Bokks's Avatar Thinking outside Myself
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Storrs, Connecticut, USA
    Posts
    3,441

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    You have 666 private messages in your inbox?!?
    I have... 28.*
    Granted I only been here since January 2007, but still...

    Anyway, the real number is actually 999, explained (by all places) in popular culture by that wierd movie that the Governator Arnold was in (what, "End of Days"? I think that was it...) Although I fear 666 a lot more due to the fact that wierdos and sociopaths use it to their own dastardly ends. I fear what people are capable of far more than any devil, since Satan is--while far more evil--a heck of a lot easier to understand.

    And it's really quite easy to understand why the number would be so feared. It's religious. And people have died over it. And it's an everlasting symbol of misfortune and evil for anyone who has studied with any shadow under Christendom. Plus it's a palendrome, I mean, that's frickin wierd!

    Besides, why not point out triskaidekaphobia; the fear of the number 13? People are afraid of everything, and most people probably have no idea that 13 is an unlucky number due to the fact that the Templars were purged on that October Friday, 1307. Yet people have a phobia of it, and quite a few high rises skip 13 on the floor plan.

    People fear everything. heck, there's a phobia for peanut butter sticking to the roof of your mouth. Even wierder, there's a phobia of the French...:hmmm:
    But for devout Christians or anyone associated with that, fear of 666 really does make a lot of sense, since no matter what the number is, 666 is the infamous symbol of pure evil. Who's not afraid of that?

    *not that I want people to PM me for just any reason. While I like the occassional message, quite truthfully I may have to kill someone if I suddenly get 638 PM's by tomorrow morning... or anytime...
    Last edited by Bokks; March 06, 2008 at 07:55 AM.
    Patronized by Vɛrbalcartɷnist|Great-Great-Grandclient of Crandar
    Thinking Outside the Bokks since 2008...

  3. #3
    Zenith Darksea's Avatar Ορθοδοξία ή θάνατος!
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    4,659

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    I don't actually know anybody who is afraid of the number per se, be they devout Christian or not. The number itself isn't going to do you any harm, and I don't think that any Christian has ever said it would (to my knowledge). It is only within certain contexts that the number 666 has any meaning, and even then the emphasis should be on the word 'meaning', not on any intrinsic substance.

  4. #4
    Fingon NL's Avatar Centenarius
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    822

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Superstition, that's it.

  5. #5
    Pyrebound's Avatar Ordinarius
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland
    Posts
    757

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia

    Reminds me of hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia, fear of long words. I wonder who was the guy who invented the name of that phobia

  6. #6
    chriscase's Avatar Chairman Miao
    Civitate Patrician

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    5,718

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    If you are asking, in general, why people might get overly worked up about a number, consider the folklore that surrounds the discovery of the square root of two by the Pythagoreans. For a school - and perhaps, an entire culture - to discover their fundamental mathematical worldview is fatally flawed could be more than a little disturbing.

    The effects of the Pythagoreans' problem with the square root of 2 can be seen all the way through medieval mathematics. It hindered the development of virtually any area of mathematics that required a correspondence between number and length. It was not until the development of rigorous, set-theoretic calculus that the matter was really settled.

    So there it is - over 2 millenia of mathematical handicap, due to one little number - "irrational", indeed!

  7. #7
    Dayman's Avatar Romesick
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Philadephia, PA
    Posts
    12,431

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fingon NL View Post
    Superstition, that's it.
    Pretty much sums it up.

  8. #8

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    about 666, and this is just from me watching a show on A&E 3-4 years ago and so has degraded to the level of hearsay in my head really ... i heard that 666, if corresponded with letters in the hebrew alphabet, add up to a name, that of the anti-christ: Nero Caesar, lol.

  9. #9
    CtrlAltDe1337's Avatar Praepositus
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    5,424

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMofo View Post
    about 666, and this is just from me watching a show on A&E 3-4 years ago and so has degraded to the level of hearsay in my head really ... i heard that 666, if corresponded with letters in the hebrew alphabet, add up to a name, that of the anti-christ: Nero Caesar, lol.
    Actually it does, but it also equals many other names too.


  10. #10

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifix View Post
    Actually it does, but it also equals many other names too.
    is satan von antichrist one of them?

    seriously tho, i only have a rudimentry understanding of the subject, but i assume you are referring to the leaving out of vowels (for what specific purpose i do not know atm), and hence the differing terms of Iejovah/jehovah & Yahweh from YHWH, for example. So it would be NRO CSR (sort of? heh).

  11. #11

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    I'm more afraid of 23.

  12. #12
    gambit's Avatar Gorak
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    8,772

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    I'm more afraid of 23.
    Ever since that movie, if I'm bored I have taken the time to try and figure out any deep 23 meanings in the words and numbers around me (counting the letters or doing some ridiculous matter of multiplying the first letter by the second then dividing...etc.) I've found the number 23 quite a few times actually, but nothing surprising.

    As for 666, I'm not that worried about it. It's superstition that's been built up over the centuries, like Mr. Mofo said earlier about it meaning Nero Caesar in Hebrew, the terrible catastrophe it was supposed to warn of will never happen, or probably already has i.e. the fall of the Roman Empire or some such.

    I do enjoy seeing peoples reactions whenever it pops up, specifically my friends who are those devout christians that believe it truly is the number of the beast and a sign of evil.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter S. Thompson
    You better take care of me, Lord. If you dont.. you're gonna have me on your hands

  13. #13
    different_13's Avatar Civitate
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Carlisle, England
    Posts
    586

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Why, were you a Knicks fan during the 90's?

    But anyway, Voltaire - you answer your own thread: "Irrational Fear of Numbers".
    By definition, there is no proper reason for an irrational fear..

    As it is, there's probably historical reasons - holy numbers (which therefore become evil numbers to opposing religions, perhaps?), mathematics, noteworthy days...
    Life, go easy on me


    Then I weighed him I said, “Holy ****!” because he weighs 900,000,000,000,000,000 tons. That amazing weight made me say the “S” word.
    for more from the wonderful world of Humber Reloaded, just google it!


    Under the patronage of imb39

  14. #14

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    But so many people are irrational. How long does irrational have to be to become rational?

  15. #15

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    look out! here comes a 4! runnnnn!

  16. #16
    Kiljan Arslan's Avatar Comes Rei Militaris
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    The Place of Mayo in Minnesota
    Posts
    20,672

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    I've read that 616 is what it actually is.
    according to exarch I am like
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    sure, the way fred phelps finds christianity too optimistic?

    Simple truths
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Did you know being born into wealth or marrying into wealth really shows you never did anything to earn it?
    btw having a sig telling people not to report you is hilarious.

  17. #17
    DimondLight's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    New York, US of A
    Posts
    1,410

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Cibophobia- Fear of food

    That could be inconvenient.

    I see how people that are religious might "fear" 666, but I think that fear of a number or other ridiculousness like that is kinda stupid.
    Proud American







  18. #18
    Thanatos's Avatar Now Is Not the Time
    Moderator Emeritus

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    33,188

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    I'm not afraid of the number 666, but still, I wouldn't sleep in a room that had it written all over the walls in red paint...

  19. #19
    gambit's Avatar Gorak
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    8,772

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    I'm not afraid of the number 666, but still, I wouldn't sleep in a room that had it written all over the walls in red paint...
    I think rooms with anything written all over the walls in red paint is downright creepy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter S. Thompson
    You better take care of me, Lord. If you dont.. you're gonna have me on your hands

  20. #20

    Default Re: Irrational Fear of Numbers

    I agree with what alot of people have said here: Most people aren't really scared of 666 any more than they are of 13 or Jinxing it, even among what most would consider to be the extremists. People might fear whatever it could represent, but no one's actually that concerned when it pops up randomly in stuff like post counts, random numbers in games (I mean like in RPGs when you hit someone and a damage number pops up.), etc. I'm a christain, and I'm certainly not remotely scared of a number.
    I do hereby resolve to stay out of any debates in the political mudpit and the Ethos and Mores thread! ...What? I suck at arguing my point!

    War
    You know you wanna do it.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •