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    Excuse me for the stupid question but how do you install these new portraits for 77 BC? The ones for Tigran and Mithradates?

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    It is not a stupid question at all, as I spent some time to do it. As soon as I install Mithradates I will give you some instructions, as each faction leader requires to identify a certain file in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvor Hardin View Post
    It is not a stupid question at all, as I spent some time to do it. As soon as I install Mithradates I will give you some instructions, as each faction leader requires to identify a certain file in the game.

    Oh okay thanks alot Salvor Hardin. I am looking forward to playing around with these new portraits.

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    Although I in 77BC he is a bit younger than historically, as he had the tendency to die after 4 years of campaign. But, please, do not tell Bucellarii about that
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    Although I in 77BC he is a bit younger than historically, as he had the tendency to die after 4 years of campaign. But, please, do not tell Bucellarii about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvor Hardin View Post
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    beautiful!
    you may wanna change that "the Butcher" line though

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    I must confess that I am quite happy with that epithet for Mithradates. After all, he is said to have slaughtered (IIRC) 20.000 Italic in Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvor Hardin View Post
    I must confess that I am quite happy with that epithet for Mithradates. After all, he is said to have slaughtered (IIRC) 20.000 Italic in Asia
    and how many hudreds of thousands have Ceasar slaughtered in Gaul?
    no one calls him a butcher, do they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss View Post
    and how many hudreds of thousands have Ceasar slaughtered in Gaul?
    no one calls him a butcher, do they?
    Of course not official, but i think a lot called Gaius Julius exactly this way, the Gallic war was one reason that he got more and more enemies in Rome, after all his legions killed a lot of Gallic tax-payers in the so-called Rome-friendly regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    Of course not official, but i think a lot called Gaius Julius exactly this way, the Gallic war was one reason that he got more and more enemies in Rome, after all his legions killed a lot of Gallic tax-payers in the so-called Rome-friendly regions.
    thats exactly my point. but who in the west mentions it nowadays, a scholar or two?
    as far as im concerned they are all butchers to bigger or lesser degree. it isnt fair singling out Mithridates. i think we still view history through stereotypes created by Roman propaganda like sources.
    when it comes to Ceasar he is a glorious hero. books written, movies shot...
    but when it comes to Mithridates, king, who pushed Pontus to its greatest glory and strength (just like the other oriental "tyran", Tigran, btw) he is oriental pomp and a tyran
    they are ALL self-centered, sinful politicians and killers, no goods and bads there. everyone seeked and defended his own agenda. can you blame them for that?

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    Doubtless Mithradates and Tigranes have both been unfairly treated by Roman historians and I would prefer to see the title Mithradates VI Eupator Dionysos on the unit unit card

    Interestingly as later recounted by Valerius Maximus, the orator Helvius Mancia witheringly describes Cn Pompeius Magnus as an Adulescentulus Carnifex or boy butcher:

    I saw Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus dripping with blood...I saw...Marcus Brutus lacerated by the sword...I saw Gnaeus Carbo...bound by the chains you had ordered thrown upon him, testifying that, when he held the highest command, he had, contrary to all that is holy and unholy, been slaughtered by you, a Roman knight. I saw Perpenna cursing your savagery, and all of them screaming with one angry voice, because without trial they had died at the hands of the likes of you, a teenage butcher.

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    Indeed, I think it is very appropriate.
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    good idea man!!
    and Ambiorix? (if he's in?)
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    He is in. Although I do not know if there are any portraits of him :hmmm: . Anyway, I second both suggestions

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    Here's Ambiorix..... Not historical though but a quiet a heroic recreation according to the Belgians.... atleast there's a reference....

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    damn, you were before me
    well, that's it!!
    or search "Ambiorix" at google and you'll find some more
    can you do it with these?

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    How would I go about adding these portraits?

    I tried to create a custom folder etc (like in METW2) for example: 58bc\data\ui\custom portraits\Gaius Julius, and edited the descr.strat.txt but it does nothing.

    If I try to add the tgas into the 58bc\data\ui\roman folder it ctds, even after copius renaming of files.

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    In theory it is as simple as this:
    - Copy from any unpacked version of the vanilla game, the whole portraits folder (in data\ui\roman\) and place it in 58bc\data\ui\roman. Then just overwrite the portraits folder with the one in the first page. No need to touch the descr_strat file.

    Hope this helps.

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