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[Gary88]

Moses was stoned when he set Ten Commandments, researcher claims

We all know that Moses was high on Mount Sinai when God spoke to him, but were the Ten Commandments a result of divine inspiration alone?
An Israeli researcher is claiming in a study published this week the prophet may have been stoned when he set the Ten Commandments in stone.
According to Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, psychedelic drugs formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times.
Writing in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy, he says concoctions based on the bark of the acacia tree, frequently mentioned in the Old Testament, contain the same molecules as those found in plants from which the powerful Amazonian hallucinogenic brew ayahuasca is prepared.
"The thunder, lightning and blaring of a trumpet which the Book of Exodus says emanated from Mount Sinai could just have been the imaginings of a people in an altered state of awareness," writes Shanon. "In advanced forms of ayahuasca inebriation, the seeing of light is accompanied by profound religious and spiritual feelings."
References in the Bible where people "see" sounds, is another "classic phenomenon", he said, citing the example of religious ceremonies in the Amazon in which drugs are used that induce people to "see" music.
Speaking about his article on Israeli public radio, he added: "As far as Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either. Or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics."
Moses was probably also on mind-altering drugs when he saw the "burning bush", suggested Shanon, who admitted to dabbling with such substances.
Speaking of his own experience of ayahuasca during a religious ceremony in Brazil's Amazon forest in 1991, he said: "I experienced visions that had spiritual-religious connotations."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...hepalestinians

i've also read that Religious visions in the bible are concurrent with epileptic fits, i just thought i would share this hilarious article and see what people thought about it.

[Bokks]

Wow, you know when I firt read that statement I thought it meant he was stoned to death by the Jewish people. I was like, "em, that's a little different..."

Pretty funny, and altogether too likely...

[Dunecat]

This is the same sort of banter that you see among UFO theorists, that aliens gave egyptians the pyramids and the sort.

Just because drugs can and do give people mind altering experiences (like stopping time when doing ALOT of LSD ), that doesn't mean that their interpretation of them can then be applied to all people who claim that same interpretation when there is not an exact correlation.

"The thunder, lightning and blaring of a trumpet " Is nothing special, and oftentimes in the OT there are references to the blaring of trumpets or sounding of drums to convey a message, or significance.

Though I sure the esteemed stoned researcher already knew that.

PROTIP: Study the OT. Otherwise you look like a fool jumping at a statement like "thunder, lighting, and a trumpet".

[Bokks]

This is the same sort of banter that you see among UFO theorists, that aliens gave egyptians the pyramids and the sort.

Just because drugs can and do give people mind altering experiences (like stopping time when doing ALOT of LSD ), that doesn't mean that their interpretation of them can then be applied to all people who claim that same interpretation when there is not an exact correlation.

"The thunder, lightning and blaring of a trumpet " Is nothing special, and oftentimes in the OT there are references to the blaring of trumpets or sounding of drums to convey a message, or significance.

Though I sure the esteemed stoned researcher already knew that.

PROTIP: Study the OT. Otherwise you look like a fool jumping at a statement like "thunder, lighting, and a trumpet".

I'm confused, this statement more or less approves and attacks the original post and article.
So... do you think that there was a chemical explanation by way of ayahuaska or that there was a real and true rleigious experiance?
If so... what was that about the UFOlogists about? Since that statement kind of seemed like you were saying that Moses was off his gord, so-to-speak.

[Dunecat]

I'm confused, this statement more or less approves and attacks the original post and article.
So... do you think that there was a chemical explanation by way of ayahuaska or that there was a real and true rleigious experiance?
If so... what was that about the UFOlogists about? Since that statement kind of seemed like you were saying that Moses was off his gord, so-to-speak.

You misunderstood me. Re-read me, I did I don't find my post that misleading.

*EDIT*- I do not believe aliens gave egyptians the pyramids, no, lol. New paragraph, sorry.

[Zenith Darksea]

Unfortunately people don't yet seem to have learnt the problems with the argument that runs: "This is a bit like that... so it must be true."

[roy34543]

Theres already a thread like this.
I have to say that its like saying simply because a horse died it must have been because of disease . When it could be basically anything else.

[Gary88]

i posted this article because i found it first on google but i read the story this morning in a free newspaper i get at work, in that article it pointed out that researchers had found two halucagenic plants around sinai that are similar to those used by Amazon tribes to give religious visions. this article doesn't mention it at all though :hmmm:

[Problem Sleuth]

i posted this article because i found it first on google but i read the story this morning in a free newspaper i get at work, in that article it pointed out that researchers had found two halucagenic plants around sinai that are similar to those used by Amazon tribes to give religious visions. this article doesn't mention it at all though :hmmm:

Actually...

Writing in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy, he says concoctions based on the bark of the acacia tree, frequently mentioned in the Old Testament, contain the same molecules as those found in plants from which the powerful Amazonian hallucinogenic brew ayahuasca is prepared.

Not two, but it mentions one.

Theres already a thread like this.
I have to say that its like saying simply because a horse died it must have been because of disease . When it could be basically anything else.

It says if there's a poisonous plant nearby, the horse had some of the symptoms of consuming the poisonous plant before dying, and people mention feeding the horse something that sounds very similar to the poisonous plant, the horse probably died of the poisonous plant.

[Gary88]

Actually...

wow, you know when you go blind but only for the exact words or phrase you are looking for?

[roy34543]

It says if there's a poisonous plant nearby, the horse had some of the symptoms of consuming the poisonous plant before dying, and people mention feeding the horse something that sounds very similar to the poisonous plant, the horse probably died of the poisonous plant.

Except that it doesnt really say that moses took any drugs. Or that all the Isrealites did.
Its not really a fair comparison though, because it still could have been anything. a posion plant that 100% kills you i understand. But a drug that makes you come down with a tablet of things not to do i think is a little strange. Not that the tablet exists, but simply that hed make it while drugged.

[Thanatos]

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[Gary88]

what? you don't need to tell me i can't spell, i'm well aware of that fact. Nonetheless "Moses may have been high" is the funniest headline i have ever read.