Is It just me or...

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 03, 2008, 10:18 PM

Do the chariots in XGM do a ridiculous amount of damage to an AI controlled army in the campaign mode??? Unless my faction leader is present or I have Spartans on the battlefield I usually simulate my battles but this has caused me not to be able to do that because I won't have an army left afterwards. This problem usually pops in Asia Minor... any help to solve this would be greatly appreciated.. Thank you!!!

**Cymera** · March 03, 2008, 10:28 PM

You'll find that the Gauls wield ridiculous numbers of these contraptions as well.

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 03, 2008, 10:32 PM

oh just wonderful lol well am I just crazy or does the same thing happen to you guys... and I hope the same thing doesn't happen with Gaul because I really don't fight that many battles I'm more of a big picture campaign guy

**CaesarVincens** · March 03, 2008, 10:35 PM

Well, it has to do with them having several HP, I want to say 6.

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 03, 2008, 10:50 PM

Yeah it has to be something because they wipe out some of my best armies on AI but when I control it I EASILY defeat them... especially if they only have chariots because most of the time they do. It's just a big army of chariots. Point is they're ridiculously strong and it really takes the fun out of the game for me so is there anything I can do to fix it???

**CaesarVincens** · March 04, 2008, 12:21 AM

Edit the EDU (export_descr_units) file to reduce the chariots hitpoints. As to how, there is a handy forum just for editing RTW on this very website. I'd check either text editing and scripting, or the tutorials.

**Kara Kolyo** · March 04, 2008, 12:21 AM

just play as the seleucids and conquer the world in 20 turns. chariots are great to deal with brigands....

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 04, 2008, 12:31 AM

Sorry... The Spartans will carry their banners to the end of the XGM world

As for editing the EDU, is there anyone who can tell me exact instructions on how to do that??? I'm not totally computer illiterate but that goes beyond my knowledge lol. Thx again

**synthesis** · March 04, 2008, 11:03 AM

I try to avoid auto-resolve because of these sorts of peculiarities. When I get lazy and start auto-resolving is when I know when to stop playing. I liken it to placing all the troops in a blender and putting it on puree. That's why HAs traditionally did so poorly. It was like they were thrown into hand-to-hand without firing any arrows. Chariots are ridiculously weak to pikes too.

**Unknown Soldier** · March 04, 2008, 11:42 AM

Chariots are a known Auto-resolve cheat/exploit as KK says Selucids can rule the world with theirs in 20 turns.

I only use Auto resolve against weak city garrisons - less than 500 men on huge unit size when I've got a full stack (2500 + troops) of elite troops.

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 04, 2008, 12:16 PM

Idk I guess its just me but many of the battles are just boring... I like to make it as real as possible and the factor leader (who I kinda view as myself) wouldn't command EVERY battle fought within his empire. If the Faction leader is involved I surely play the battle but everything else is minor to me. Especially in Asia Minor, I tend to concentrate my campaign on the Greek Peninsula or Italy. So there's no easy way to fix it

besides the EDU thing... which I still don't know how to do...

**Lysander13** · March 04, 2008, 02:27 PM

Actually, the "EDU thing" is the way to fix it. Aradan who is one of the lead coders for the Fourth Age: Total War has come up with a great system to balance Auto Resolve, to include chariots and horse archers. In fairness, IIRC, XGM's very own DBH contributed to the info regarding this or perhaps he was relaying info I don't recall exactly. However, I'm surprised he hasn't used it in XGM yet, if that is in fact the case. The thread is over at the "org" in the scriptorium titled The Complete EDU guide by Aradan. Anyhow for those interested check it out, it's a very well written and researched guide.

Edit: Here's the link if anyone is interested. Pay specific attention to the details of the stat_health tag and the usage of hp_extra as it applies to auto resolve and the related information section.
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=88859

**Scutarii** · March 04, 2008, 06:40 PM

DBH has balanced Horse Archers, just not chariots. Chariots still get theri ridiculous auto-resolve bonus from vanilla that allowed the Egyptians to rule the world.

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 04, 2008, 10:35 PM

Ahhhhh, this might help lol thx for your help guys I'll post again if I need more help (which I probably will)

**SpartanWarriorXI** · March 04, 2008, 11:08 PM

Yeah I need help... ok I went to the guide and read the stat_health thingy and the related info but the only question is how do I get to whereever I need to go to change the stat_health and what do I do once there??? The guide told me how to adjust it to balance auto resolve but not how to get there or anything

**CaesarVincens** · March 05, 2008, 12:14 AM

Go to the data folder under the xgm folder, then find the file 'export_descr_unit' that is the file which holds the information on the stats of every unit.

MAKE A BACK UP BEFORE EDITING!

Any more questions should be directed to the modding forum, since the more experienced modders post there more often.