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    i was feeling particularly spiteful today, so i embarked upon a little thought experiment on how to achieve peace in the levant seeing as how there has been nearly non-stop news coverage of the accursed area for decades now and i'm sick to death of it. ok, well i came up with several:

    Peace Plan 1

    1) Levant Area to be completely evacuated. i mean, everyone living around Israel, Gaza, and southern Lebanon and eastern egypt are to be informed via leaflet droppings that unless they leave the area within say, a week, they'll be completely nuked by a continuous barrage of cobalt or even strontium 90 clad thermonuclear warheads.
    i suggest Sr-90 because the particularly toxic nature of the ensuing nuclear fallout will ensure no bickering over the levant region for generations to come.

    2) commence bombardment:


    3) Accept Nobel Peace Prize (hey, dont complain; Henry Kissinger is a nobel peace prize laureate, and he's done some comparably worse :wub: that 1))

    well that's Peace Plan 1 so far. Peace Plan 2'll be finished as soon as i can find another solution that doesnt involve nukes

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    ....What?

    I mean, What the Christ?
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

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    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
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    I say we drop the bombs without spreading leaflets. Will save us unnecessary costs.

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    Waste of good wood.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    It would also cover most of the eastern Mediterranean and western Asia with nuclear fallout as well.

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    I suggest to set up that area for testing experiemental weapons - after all, why waste people's life if you want to kill them all??

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    My Mideast Peace Plan:

    1- The Palestinians fall under the authority of the Kingdom of Jordan, which should be the case anyway ... the UN said so, back in the day. Those Palestinians living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Jordan. Palestinians living in Israel continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the West Bank).

    2- The Palestinian Authority is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Israel remains a Jewish State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.

    4- Every country in the Middle East recognizes a UN Security Council Resolution that Israel has the right to exist. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

    Everyone might have noted, from the tone of this post, that I am dead serious.

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    The chosen path will take time and should not be abadonned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    My Mideast Peace Plan:

    1- The Palestinians fall under the authority of the Kingdom of Jordan, which should be the case anyway ... the UN said so, back in the day. Those Palestinians living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Jordan. Palestinians living in Israel continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the West Bank).

    2- The Palestinian Authority is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Israel remains a Jewish State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.

    4- Every country in the Middle East recognizes a UN Security Council Resolution that Israel has the right to exist. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

    Everyone might have noted, from the tone of this post, that I am dead serious.
    Sorry Oldgamer my friend, but it would never work nor would anyone involved in the matter accept this aside from Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    My Mideast Peace Plan:

    1- The Palestinians fall under the authority of the Kingdom of Jordan, which should be the case anyway ... the UN said so, back in the day. Those Palestinians living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Jordan. Palestinians living in Israel continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the West Bank).

    2- The Palestinian Authority is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Israel remains a Jewish State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.

    4- Every country in the Middle East recognizes a UN Security Council Resolution that Israel has the right to exist. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

    Everyone might have noted, from the tone of this post, that I am dead serious.
    And also dead wrong, That plan would lead to Phailure of ep1c proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus View Post
    And also dead wrong, That plan would lead to Phailure of ep1c proportions.
    Yay, the jargon of Dismounted H4XX0rZ returns.

    If his plan is "dead wrong" perhaps you could elaborate why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    My Mideast Peace Plan:

    1- The Palestinians fall under the authority of the Kingdom of Jordan, which should be the case anyway ... the UN said so, back in the day. Those Palestinians living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Jordan. Palestinians living in Israel continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the West Bank).

    2- The Palestinian Authority is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Israel remains a Jewish State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.

    4- Every country in the Middle East recognizes a UN Security Council Resolution that Israel has the right to exist. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

    Everyone might have noted, from the tone of this post, that I am dead serious.
    Thats the most one sided deal ever, and even Israel recognizes the need for two state solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major.Stupidity View Post
    Thats the most one sided deal ever, and even Israel recognizes the need for two state solution.
    Israel recognizes the need for the two state solution because there's nothing else out there, and they need the support of the United States.

    My plan puts the Palestinians under the "authority" that they were meant to be under ... Jordan. Palestinians living in the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel proper are not forced to immigrate to Jordan, but those in the West Bank and Gaza are under the control of the Jordanian government. Palestinians living in other countries leave the "refugee camps", immigrate to Jordan, and no longer are marginalized and radicalized by the hatred of their Muslim "hosts".

    The PA is no longer needed, so it is disbanded. Hamas no longer has even a semblance of "legitimacy".

    Israel remains a Jewish state, with Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank, who are under the authority of the Jordanian government.

    Then, the entire world is not engaged in building a "nation" that never existed, i.e., Palestine.

    @Garb
    Israel occupies land that was taken during the 1967 war ... a war that was defensive in nature. That land is not illegally occupied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    My Mideast Peace Plan:

    1- The Israelis fall under the authority of the Kingdom of Jordan, which should be the case anyway ... the UN said so, back in the day. Those Palestinians living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Jordan. Palestinians living in Israel continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the West Bank).

    2- The Palestinian Authority is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Israel remains a Jewish State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.

    4- Every country in the Middle East recognizes a UN Security Council Resolution that Israel has the right to exist. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

    Everyone might have noted, from the tone of this post, that I am dead serious.

    Ariel Sharon
    Hey, you forgot the signature there!

    How about that

    1- The Palestinians fall under the authority of the Intergalactic Alliance, which should be the case anyway ... Darth Vader said so, back in the day. Those Israelis living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Alpha Centauri. Israelis living in Palestine continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the Gaza).

    2- The Israeli State is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Palestine remains a Vogon State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.tar and feathers.

    4- Every State in the United States recognizes a gazillion UN Security Council Resolutions that Palestinians have the right to exist and that Israel illegally occupies large tracts of land. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    My Mideast Peace Plan:

    1- The Palestinians fall under the authority of the Kingdom of Jordan, which should be the case anyway ... the UN said so, back in the day. Those Palestinians living countries other than Israel are repatriated to Jordan. Palestinians living in Israel continue living there, but have dual-citizenship (except for those living in the West Bank).

    2- The Palestinian Authority is disbanded, as it is no longer needed.

    3- Israel remains a Jewish State, and has full military access to the West Bank and Gaza.

    4- Every country in the Middle East recognizes a UN Security Council Resolution that Israel has the right to exist. They all make peace, under this Resolution.

    Everyone might have noted, from the tone of this post, that I am dead serious.

    I would support this.


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    I agree with Oldgamer though I would add that Arabs in Israel should be allowed to stay and Israelis in the West Bank should be allowed to stay. Gaza was a complete mess yet only around 40,000 people were moved out. The West Bank would require 200,000 people to be moved out. Those Israelis should be allowed to stay because their removal would be a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icefrisco View Post
    I agree with Oldgamer though I would add that Arabs in Israel should be allowed to stay and Israelis in the West Bank should be allowed to stay. Gaza was a complete mess yet only around 40,000 people were moved out. The West Bank would require 200,000 people to be moved out. Those Israelis should be allowed to stay because their removal would be a disaster.
    And the mass deportation of roughly 5 million Palestinians to Jordan wouldn't be? In the Palestinian territories alone there are 3 million of them.

    I doubt this would be possible, logicistically and because many people, the deportees probably, wouldn't support it.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Oh, bloody hell, just nuke us (israel) but re-loaction me before, to sweet ol' zanzibar island...
    oh, i get to take my friends and family there and have full internet access and my pc to play mtw2

    gimme that and nuke whenever you want

    btw, it's isra-hell, not israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    And the mass deportation of roughly 5 million Palestinians to Jordan wouldn't be? In the Palestinian territories alone there are 3 million of them.

    I doubt this would be possible, logicistically and because many people, the deportees probably, wouldn't support it.
    I possibly didn't make myself clear on the issue of West Bank Palestinians. They would remain in the West Bank, but their government would be Jordan.

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    Well a lot of peace resoloutions would work , but all of them have to in no way involve giving up any part of Isreal perhaps except the exremely sparsely populated (which basically means they suck) because the Isrealis wont accept that.
    Nearly everything else, finincially or technologically speaking (perhaps except nukes) could be given from the goverment as reimbrusement.
    East jerusalem may work because of its value , but youd have to expect riots.
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