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    MOSCOW (AFP) - Dmitry Medvedev won a landslide victory in Russia's presidential election to replace Vladimir Putin, officials said Monday, but accusations of rigging overshadowed the result.

    Near complete results gave Medvedev 70.2 percent of Sunday's vote, crushing his nearest of three rivals, Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov, who won 17.8 percent, the central elections commission said.

    Allegations that the landslide was stage-managed by the Kremlin raised questions at home and internationally over the legitimacy of the election.

    However, with Putin set to remain in power as prime minister under Medvedev, the biggest question was to what extent the new president will be in charge.

    At first glance, victory appeared to transform Medvedev, a soft-spoken bureaucrat who has never held elected office.

    Russia's mighty state-run television networks have for weeks painted Medvedev as Putin's anointed successor, a president-in-waiting who not only says the same things as Putin, but dresses and talks like him.ADVERTISEMENT




    At a celebratory rock concert on Red Square, Medvedev, almost for the first time, looked like his own man.

    Where Putin, 55, was dressed in his usual black rain mack, the 42-year-old Medvedev came wearing a leather jacket and jeans and seemed to be brimming with confidence.

    The choreography stressed not only the change of power, but shift in generation.

    Medvedev will be the youngest Kremlin leader since Tsar Nicholas II and the first after the Bolshevik Revolution not to have risen to power through the Communist Party or, like Putin, the KGB.

    Whether his apparent self-assurance is real, or whether Medvedev will be a Putin puppet, is now the billion-ruble question hanging over the world's leading energy exporter and biggest country.

    "The most interesting time will be during the spring," said Alexei Malashenko, an analyst with the Carnegie Moscow Center. "I have the impression that he is more independent than he appeared at first."

    At a post-polls press conference, the visibly relaxed Medvedev promised "joint work" with Putin, who is stepping down after eight years in the Kremlin. But he stressed that the presidency was not about to be weakened.

    The powers of the presidency and premiership "flow from the constitution and existing legislation and no one proposes to change them," he said.

    Underlining that foreign policy is "determined by the president," Medvedev laid claim to one of Putin's main responsibilities during two terms where he has globe-trotted to restore Russian geopolitical power.

    On the other hand, the specific mentioning of foreign policy appeared to suggest that Putin will dominate matters at home.

    The Medvedev-Putin relationship is a political balancing act likely to remain in the air for some time to come.

    "Medvedev's task will be to prevent the bureaucracy from viewing Putin as a man on the way out. Putin's will be to avoid allowing a situation where Medvedev is seen as a puppet," the Russian newspaper Vedomosti said.

    How the West and Russia's beleaguered opposition forces see Medvedev is the other unknown.

    Even before voting began, foreign observers criticised the unfair conditions, with Medvedev given blanket media coverage and liberal opponents prevented from registering.

    Both the Communist Party and independent vote-monitoring organisation Golos alleged large-scale violations on Sunday.

    The only Western observer group not to have boycotted the polls, a group from the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, was to give an assessment on Monday, having already described the choice on offer as "limited at best."

    Objections voiced by several European newspapers suggested that Western government reaction to the vote might also be critical.

    The Financial Times Deutschland said it would be "an insult to democracy" to speak of a democratic election, while Italy's La Stampa referred to "a democracy that many consider mutilated, even destroyed."

    The latest returns put nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky in third place with 9.4 percent and the almost unknown Andrei Bogdanov fourth with 1.3 percent.

    Turnout hit 69.6 percent among the 109 million eligible voters, although critics say that fraud and coercion were used to inflate the figure.
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    This is like telling me that today shall be Monday. It was pretty much a fact that Medvedev would win the election.
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    Putins puppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Edward III View Post
    Putins puppet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empi Rapper View Post
    Go on Farnan, go and help those despicable thugs you call our soldiers to kill some of the poorest people on the planet.
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    Don't you realize that it is a good thing that so many British soldiers have already been killed as punishment for the invasion?


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    He's won long before formal elections so nothing new and surprising anyways.

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    And is the sky still blue, too? How did Chechnya vote this time, I wonder?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7274395.stm

    The only western oversight group that was able to observe the election due to the government's attempts to block them all has criticised its fairness. Big shock. Only 300 observers were there to monitor 96,000 polling stations. But let's hear the Russians tell us why the election was in fact fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    And is the sky still blue, too? How did Chechnya vote this time, I wonder?
    'Chechen' president promised 100% frequency I've heard

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    i would say im suprised..

    but that would just be a lie.

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    Ferrets got promoted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence of Arabia View Post
    Last edited by King Edward III; March 03, 2008 at 04:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Edward III View Post
    Ferrets got promoted?



    Yes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Yes.



    Where you find that?
    According to the Theory of War, which teaches that the best way to avoid the inconvenience of war is to pursue it away from your own country, it is more sensible for us to fight our notorious enemy in his own realm, with the joint power of our allies, than it is to wait for him at our own doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Yes.

    That's low, just low... (and btw those are Ukranian national cloth not Russian)

    About the election in general: it was a circus! I don't even know what they elected Medvedev for, I don't know what he stands for since he refused to participate in debates. The only thing that is known about him is that he will continue to work mystical "Plan of Putin".

    Huge show-off, very little difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard View Post
    That's low, just low... (and btw those are Ukranian national cloth not Russian)
    russian flag = blue/red/white... i dont get what the problem is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erebus26 View Post
    I'm surprised everyone is shocked about the lack of democracy and fixed elections in Russia. I thought this has always been the case.

    I think the Western Media just have to accept that things are done differently in the Motherland.
    i think most of us are well aware of the fact that Russia is a sham of a democracy. We just like to keep bringing these things up because the 'russians' of the boards keep claiming otherwise (this all being western propaganda shite blah blah blah)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    russian flag = blue/red/white... i dont get what the problem is?
    I meant the thing they are dancing on... I don't think that a grave and a monument of glory should be used like this. But that's IMHO.

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    lmao

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    How did Chechnya vote this time, I wonder?
    It's not the leader this time. Some of regions have beaten Chechnya about the turnout, including my own, that is the leader with more than 90% voters.
    The only western oversight group that was able to observe the election due to the government's attempts to block them all has criticised its fairness. Big shock. Only 300 observers were there to monitor 96,000 polling stations. But let's hear the Russians tell us why the election was in fact fair.
    They parrot the same thing every time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan Kong View Post
    They parrot the same thing every time.
    Please walk us through your process of double-think that shies you away from the conclusion that the Kremlin is consistantly fiddling the election results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Please walk us through your process of double-think that shies you away from the conclusion that the Kremlin is consistantly fiddling the election results.
    Whether there was fraud or not I wouldn't judge, because I don't know for sure. But knowing the hypocritical nature of those observers, I don't give a **** what they say. From the very beginning it was obvious that Medvedev would win, and it has happened, that is what matters.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan Kong View Post
    Whether there was fraud or not I wouldn't judge, because I don't know for sure. But knowing the hypocritical nature of those observers, I don't give a **** what they say. From the very beginning it was obvious that Medvedev would win, and it has happened, that is what matters.
    What do you mean by the hypocritical nature of the observers?? Doesn´t it bother you at all that the entire democratic world calls the mock election in Russia a farce and an insult to democracy?

    Who is the succesor of Medvedev? Has he named one, and who?? Speaking of beeing a pet..... Sorry, but I´m out til tomorrow, but Russian democracy is ****** .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneboy View Post
    What do you mean by the hypocritical nature of the observers?? Doesn´t it bother you at all that the entire democratic world calls the mock election in Russia a farce and an insult to democracy?

    Who is the succesor of Medvedev? Has he named one, and who?? Speaking of beeing a pet..... Sorry, but I´m out til tomorrow, but Russian democracy is ****** .
    But the thing is that Russia doesn't give a rats ass what you, I or anybody in the west thinks.

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