War at Any Cost

[Twfan55]

Interesting Article about the War in Iraq,


http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=12441


Check it out.

[MyNameIsGreat]

An article on "antiwar.com" where Ron Paul compares America to the Roman Empire and says America is going to collapse soon ("much sooner than Rome").

Ugh.

"News of the violence and deprivation which ordinary Iraqis are forced to deal with on a daily basis rarely makes it to the front pages. Instead, we read in the newspapers numerous slanted stories about the how the surge is succeeding and reducing violence."

What is he talking about? Not only does he accuse the media of being biased in a pro-Iraq War slant, which is laughable, but he says the media doesn't cover the war enough? Do we really need 24/7 round-the-clock coverage of Iraq?

"Never does anyone dare to discuss the costs of the war or its implications."
Yup, there is NEVER any anti-war discussion in America. Never. Not in debates or in the media. NEVER !!!

[Twfan55]

"News of the violence and deprivation which ordinary Iraqis are forced to deal with on a daily basis rarely makes it to the front pages. Instead, we read in the newspapers numerous slanted stories about the how the surge is succeeding and reducing violence."

What is he talking about? Not only does he accuse the media of being biased in a pro-Iraq War slant, which is laughable, but he says the media doesn't cover the war enough? Do we really need 24/7 round-the-clock coverage of Iraq?

"Never does anyone dare to discuss the costs of the war or its implications."
Yup, there is NEVER any anti-war discussion in America. Never. Not in debates or in the media. NEVER !!!

Read it more carefully. He is talking about how the media constantly talks about the surge succeeding and reducing violence. What they dont talk about is the suffering of the Iraquis and the debt this war is giving the country and how it will destroy us.

[hellheaven1987]

Mmm... then??

So the writer complains the Iraq campaign should end immediately because the financial cost, yet give no solution how to end it.

I call that useless article.

Besides, he apartely forget American troops used more supplies than any other troops - a type of warfare (mass bullets, shells and bombs) that only US can use... Now, if American fire less bullets, shells and bombs, a lot of money can be saved and use for other purposes.

[mongrel]

Mmm... then??

So the writer complains the Iraq campaign should end immediately because the financial cost, yet give no solution how to end it.

I call that useless article.

Can't US forces just board the numerous aircraft and ships in their possession and head in a westerly direction. It can't be that difficult.

[roy34543]

Please . People complain about costs spent on the goverment on pretty much everything. but bankruptcy for america? not happening. I Fear to think how much money goes into social service for lazy people each year.
When thats cut youll have enough to finance two iraqi wars most likely!

[Kiljan Arslan]

Wait Libertarians complaining about how much something is costing? Who would know!

[jankren]

I see George Bush as the beginning of a string of bad 'emperors' of USA which may eventually lead to the collapse of the empire. I think the wound caused by the Iraq War wont heal for a long long time domestically and internationally.

[Maverick]

I see George Bush as the beginning of a string of bad 'emperors' of USA which may eventually lead to the collapse of the empire. I think the wound caused by the Iraq War wont heal for a long long time domestically and internationally.

Collapse of the USA... at its height.

Wishful thinking, the USA is the wealthiest and strongest nation in the world. You watch the news too much, the Iraq War is a foregone conclusion. Generally Empires decline before they fall.

[Twfan55]

The dollar is declining, the US Economy is in a nosedive. The price of gold and oil are rising,the national debt increases by 1.67 billion per day, we are in a housing crisis, crossing the border in some places is as easy as crossing the street..... need I continue

[Caelius]

The dollar is declining

It's being done intentionally!

the US Economy is in a nosedive.

Source this claim, now.

The price of gold and oil are rising

And?

You also apparently don't realize that the former of those two things is a good thing for the US.

Statistically it's the 2nd or 3rd highest gold producing country on the planet.

we are in a housing crisis

Bought time it happened. It's not going to spell the Apocalypse.

crossing the border in some places is as easy as crossing the street..... need I continue

Please do.

[MyNameIsGreat]

The dollar is declining, the US Economy is in a nosedive. The price of gold and oil are rising,the national debt increases by 1.67 billion per day, we are in a housing crisis, crossing the border in some places is as easy as crossing the street..... need I continue

And... THE VISIGOTHS ARE AT OUR GATES! ALARIC IS PLUNDERING WASHINGTON!


...Not exactly a logical jump, is it? So I don't see how Rome and America are related when conditions are completely different.

[Twfan55]

Explain to me then how the national debt will be taken care of. Some analysts say that by 2050 we will only be able to pay the intrest on the debt at the rate we are going.

[mongrel]

Collapse of the USA... at its height.

Wishful thinking, the USA is the wealthiest and strongest nation in the world. You watch the news too much, the Iraq War is a foregone conclusion. Generally Empires decline before they fall.

Naah, too complacent. Powerful empires can fall overnight to the the emergence of more dynamic cultures. Babylon fell to Persia overnight. Persia was conquered by Alexander in record time and was conquered again by the Arabs in no time at all. As for the Aztecs. At some point this century, probably sooner thanks to Bush, America will lose its pre-eminent position in world affairs.

[Ragabash]

I find it always rather hypocratical that most americans are all the time worried on cost of the war in their home, and forgetting what the cost has been, not only for the Iraqis, but to the whole of Iraqs national and infrastructure.

If you are going to take a moral ground, and stay in Iraq; yes, it will slowly eat your national economy and trust of your own people; as well as to tie much of your militarical power and cinfluence that could prove vital elsewhere later. If you leave too soon, it will definetly hurt your international status and remove any kind of moral upper ground you have so far claimed above many other countries. Not to mention that leaving might also cause end of your international influence and status, and give rising nations (unions) such as India, China, Europe (not that it's rising that fast, but it's nevertheless a major player) and Russia (this can be argued) more playground to expand their own intressess. And we all know that something for someone, is always away from someone, in this case U.S.A.

[Каие]

Well, what do you expect, American conservatives to accept an article from antiwar.com, on....anti-war.

[Kiljan Arslan]

I don't accept it because antiwar.com is run by a bunch of crazy libertarians, and crazy marxists who thought that we should have stayed out of bosnia.

[Oldgamer]

I don't accept it because antiwar.com is run by a bunch of crazy libertarians, and crazy marxists who thought that we should have stayed out of bosnia.

The late William F. Buckley was fond of saying that Libertarians ... if adrift in an open boat, running out of water and food ... would say, upon seeing a lighthouse, "I wonder if it was funded privately or by the public sector."

[hellheaven1987]

The late William F. Buckley was fond of saying that Libertarians ... if adrift in an open boat, running out of water and food ... would say, upon seeing a lighthouse, "I wonder if it was funded privately or by the public sector."

Now I know who should I cannibal first when a sea accident happens.

[Kiljan Arslan]

The late William F. Buckley was fond of saying that Libertarians ... if adrift in an open boat, running out of water and food ... would say, upon seeing a lighthouse, "I wonder if it was funded privately or by the public sector."

Man that is so true and so funny!