How will armor upgrades work?

[Gatto]

I am currently playing only Broken Crescent though I remeber in vanilla M2TW armor upgrades worked in a very odd way. For example when Sergeant Spearmen were given chainmail in armories they looked exactly as Armored Sergeants but their armor was increased only of 2 points while Armored Sergeants had much more. Also it was impossible to modify High Era swords, spears and lances without a swordsmith Guild that appeared randomly and only in high level castles... so you could have an infantryman with an armor of the late Hundred Years war and a spear of William the Conqueror's age.

Will this be fixed in 6.0? Or are there submods dealing with that (great would be if you could also obtain modified shields at each upgrade so... no more Norman style shields in the XV century)?

Thanks

[Point Blank]

Each armor upgrade gives 2-2.5 points of extra armor, but it only shows up as 1 point on the unit card. Melee weapon upgrades have been changed because it gave an extra 6 points of attack, which was very unbalancing. Now the Swordsmith just gives an extra experience point or 2.

[neoptolemos]

Please rebalance the Byzantine units and enhance their look.....

Btw one of the best mods i`ve played,.....

[Point Blank]

Rebalance how? Are they too good or not good enough?

[LordN00KE]

Is there anyway that we can use the weapon upgrades without messing up the balance?the weapon's models are a lot better when upgraded.

[sgtAlex]

m i the only one who actually liked the fact that my men had inch better weabons than my foes
(now the sword quild is dead to me +1 or +2 exp is useless all my units have silver or better anyway....

[Point Blank]

Is there anyway that we can use the weapon upgrades without messing up the balance?the weapon's models are a lot better when upgraded.

Look to SS 6.0 for improved weapons, hopefully

[Echad]

What about just using the upgraded models for non-upgraded weapons? Without any stats change?

[LordN00KE]

If you can tell me how to do that.I'll do it.

[Point Blank]

It would be an easy change, I guess.

[Echad]

It would be an easy change, I guess.

Which file does governs it - the mesh one, or the modeldb?

[LordN00KE]

Talking about models.The arrows in SS sux.The one in BC is much better.
The spears is also ugly.I like the upgraded spears better.Is there anyway to change this?

[Inhuman One]

I never look much at the arrows, they just fly. as long as its vaguely resembling an arrow I am happy.

[muffinhead]

Inhuman One has a point. I mean, your going to see the arrows for a maximum of 10 seconds if you really want to watch it stick in the ground. No point in spending all this time on new arrow models when the only thing they are going to do is dissapear. I do, however, like the idea of the new spear looks. I have seen some of BC's spears and they look more lethal than the vanilla sharpened sticks.

[spanish_emperor]

well what about if you are taking a screenshot....the arrows would look different and not as cool as the spears

[LordN00KE]

the problem is the arrow trails. Its not realistic, is there a way to remove it?

[Echad]

well what about if you are taking a screenshot....the arrows would look different and not as cool as the spears

Aha, you DO see them, when paused - and the current ones make the screenies a little weird... Trails could be removed, but I'd prefer them to be manipulated in order to look more realistic - I know that wolfslayer is working on new cool-looking smokeless cometic fire arrow trails, he may know better on what can be done on the normal ones.

[LordN00KE]

Great then. Woflslayers smokefix in your fixpack is Incredible but why do they disappear when I shoot to many of them?