SS 5.1 Pack B etc - Ancillaries Mod

[Allu X]

Fellow SS players!

I noticed that in the 5.1 mod, most of the ancillaries (retinues) are untransferable, I thought this odd because - 1. It wasn't logical in my opninion and 2. they were in previous SS versions.

It became annoying in campaigns where one of my generals had Earl of Nottingham, Duke of Wessex, Duke of York etc etc, when I wanted other generals to have these advantages.

Also it becomes annoying when your general has many titles which lower his loyalty,

I just think it seems logical that in reality you would be able to transfer these titles to other people,

So, I have made most of the logical retinues transferable - it gives the game a much more realistic feel - It also helps you create more tactics by giving certain generals
certain retinue (took me over a couple of hours, then I relised there was a quicker way )

For example, now transferable are ALL town/city/castle 'Earl/Duke etc' titles as well as many other retinues, for example 'Dread Knight', 'Monk', 'Shieldbarer', 'White Stallion'.

Still, the unlogical ones can't be transfered - for example 'Secret Lover', 'Evil Mother in Law', ' Custom Armour' and the Pet traits- As you couldn't transfer them

I hope this improves your gameplay experience

Note: I'm not sure if this is save game compatible. :S -- Download is attached to this thead, not a very big file

Edit: eek! forgot to tell you where to put it - It goes in the C://Program_Files/Sega/Medieval II Total War/mods/Stainless_Steel/data - file


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[strife1013]

Sweet + Rep for you

[Allu X]

et toi

[taylorj2]

Awesome!

[biohaker]

This is just Great! I had the same problem when a general had 5-6 titles.
It's a very nice idea and I think it gives better gameplay. +rep

[strife1013]

It works, was able to trade titles no problem.... This is great. Please include in 6.0 KK

[TzuDevil]

Thanks! That bugged me too. Much appreciated!

Cheers!

+Rep

[Allu X]

No problem guys

Going to sleep now, almost 1 am

-yawns-

[King Yngvar]

Wonderfull, I definately like it

[Quark]

Allu X
As some one who plays around with these a bit , I had a look at the file. Some titles like Templar Grandmaster, or indeed any Grandmaster title should not be transfereable. There are triggers which are designed to pick a specific general for some of these titles, so whats the point of making them, if you just than move the title around?

Kingmaker: well its meant to be the guy who helped make the new king, so how is that transferable.

Adultress: :hmmm: interesting view on woman, they are transferable, well I suppose in the period it could be true, but I certainly would do a trigger for reducing chivalry if you did it.

Chastity Belt: I thought the point was you could not take it off.

etc


I am not saying I disagree with all you have done, with things like Duke of..., marshall etc, thats fine, you can easily argue that the King can pass these out like candy to whoever he choices. Also things like doctor could be transferred, its just a matter of thinking of the triggers as well as the ancillary itself.

[Echad]

Well, adultress is an old way of speaking "slut"... Prostitutes ARE transferrable, lovers are not. And even then - not in all cases...

[Allu X]

*bump*

:')

[strife1013]

do you plan on doing an update? Such as Quark suggested?

[Allu X]

*lil' bump*

[strife1013]

bump again....hahahahha

[y2day]

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Any update? I would get with Quark to go through what should be transferable and what shouldn't.

+rep

[Quark]

Well 6.0 is not far off and that has some new ancillaries, so best to do a review then.

[dj LiTh]

Hey all, I love this idea, i went ahead and took the librity of finishing editing some of the stuff as quark and others suggested (hope thats ok with the original author/poster!)

Changes i made: (not transferable)

Most regarding sex attributes: (not transferable)
-adultresses, alter boys, chastity belts, obsessed suitor ect,
(i left all the ones that made sense like 'stunning handmaiden' ect transferable)


Religious ones i changed: (not transferable)
- archbishops, deacons, witchhunter, as these are more personality traits

Misc: (not transferable)
- nosy mother
- templar grandmaster
- yappy little dog (who would accept such a gift?)
- pet monkey
- pet guard dog
- pet blood hound
- master OF horse (personality trait)
- master OF assassins (")
- master OF archers (")
- faithfull servent (they wouldnt be faithfull to everyone???)



Anyways hope this is all ok, all thanks goto Allu X!!!!

P.s. i never got +rep before

[Allu X]

Lol thanks, +rep