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    Default BC: Regions and Provinces Project

    If you have a proper historical regional/provincial name for a BC province please post it here.

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    ¬ Names for regions and settlements in the imperial campaign
    {Baghdad_Region}        Iraq Region 
    {Baghdad}        Baghdad 
    {Byzantium_Region}        Byzantium Region
    {Constantinople}        Constantinople 
    {Alexandria_Region}        Misr Region 
    {Alexandria}        Alexandria 
    {Nicosia_Region}        Cyprus Region 
    {Nicosia}        Nicosia 
    {Famagusta_Region}        Cyprus Region 
    {Famagusta}        Famagusta 
    {Nicaea_Region}        Nicaea Region 
    {Nicaea}        Nicaea 
    {Sinop_Region}        Sinop Region 
    {Sinop}        Sinop 
    {Smyrna_Region}        Smyrna Region 
    {Smyrna}        Smyrna 
    {Adana_Region}        Cilicia Region 
    {Adana}        Adana 
    {Attalia_Region}        Attalia Region 
    {Attalia}        Attalia 
    {Kutaisi_Region}        Imereti Region 
    {Kutaisi}        Kutaisi 
    {Buraydah_Region}        Arabian Desert 
    {Buraydah}        Buraydah 
    {Ankara_Region}        Ankara Region 
    {Ankara}        Ankara 
    {Shiraz_Region}        Fars Region 
    {Shiraz}        Shiraz 
    {Kayseri_Region}        Kayseri Region 
    {Kayseri}        Kayseri 
    {Konya_Region}        Konya Region 
    {Konya}        Konya 
    {Tbilisi_Region}        Kartli Region 
    {Tbilisi}        Tbilisi 
    {Sokhumi_Region}    Abkhazeti Region 
    {Sokhumi}        Tskhumi
    {Ganja_Region}        Arran Region 
    {Ganja}        Ganja 
    {Baku_Region}        Azerbaijan Region 
    {Baku}        Baku 
    {Yerevan_Region}        Yerevan Region 
    {Yerevan}        Yerevan 
    {Ani_Region}        Vanand Region 
    {Ani}        Ani 
    {Van_Region}        Vaspurakan Region 
    {Van}        Van 
    {Trabzan_Region}        Trebizond Region 
    {Trabzan}        Trebizond 
    {Erzurum_Region}        Karin Region
    {Erzurum}        Erzurum 
    {Tabriz_Region}        Azerbaijan Region 
    {Tabriz}        Tabriz 
    {Damyut_Region}        Damyut Region 
    {Damyut}        Damyut 
    {Qahira_Region}        Misr Region 
    {Qahira}        Qahira 
    {Luxor_Region}        Aswan Region 
    {Luxor}        Aswan 
    {Marsa_Region}        Sahara Desert 
    {Marsa}        Siwa Oasis
    {Asmara_Region}        Ethiopia Region 
    {Asmara}        Massawa 
    {Calula_Region}        Horn of Africa 
    {Calula}        Calula 
    {Suqutra_Region}        Suqutra Island 
    {Suqutra}        Suqutra 
    {Tayma_Region}        Hijaz Region 
    {Tayma}        Tayma 
    {Medina_Region}        Hijaz Region 
    {Medina}        Medina 
    {Mecca_Region}        Hijaz Region 
    {Mecca}        Mecca 
    {Sana_Region}        Yemen Region 
    {Sana}        San'a 
    {Aden_Region}        Yemen Region 
    {Aden}        Aden 
    {Sur_Region}        Oman Region 
    {Sur}        Sur 
    {Muscat_Region}        Oman Region 
    {Muscat}        Muscat 
    {Jubayl_Region}        Bahrain Region
    {Jubayl}        Al Muharraq 
    {Rayy_Region}        Jibal Region 
    {Rayy}        Rayy 
    {Isfahan_Region}        Fars Region 
    {Isfahan}        Isfahan 
    {Jerusalem_Region}        Palestine Region 
    {Jerusalem}        Jerusalem 
    {Gaza_Region}        Palestine Region 
    {Gaza}        Gaza 
    {Aqaba_Region}        Hijaz Region 
    {Aqaba}        Aqaba 
    {Jaffa_Region}        Palestine Region
    {Jaffa}        Jaffa
    {Acre_Region}        Palestine Region
    {Acre}        Acre 
    {Tyre_Region}        Lebanon Region 
    {Tyre}        Tyre 
    {Tripoli_Region}        Lebanon Region 
    {Tripoli}        Tripoli 
    {Damascus_Region}        Syria Region 
    {Damascus}        Damascus 
    {Homs_Region}        Syria Region 
    {Homs}        Homs 
    {Antioch_Region}        Antioch Region 
    {Antioch}        Antioch 
    {Malatya_Region}        Malatya Region 
    {Malatya}        Malatya 
    {Mosul_Region}        Mosul Region 
    {Mosul}        Mosul 
    {Kabul_Region}        Kabul Region 
    {Kabul}        Kabul 
    {Ghazni_Region}        Ghazna Region 
    {Ghazni}        Ghazni 
    {Kandahar_Region}        Kandahar Region 
    {Kandahar}        Kandahar 
    {Shamakha_Region}        Arran Region 
    {Shamakha}        Shamakha 
    {Ahvaz_Region}        Khuzestan Region 
    {Ahvaz}        Ahvaz 
    {Basra_Region}        Iraq Region 
    {Basra}        Basra 
    {Kerak_Region}        Outer Jordan Region 
    {Kerak}        Kerak 
    {Sis_Region}        Cilicia Region 
    {Sis}        Sis 
    {Sivas_Region}        Sivas Region 
    {Sivas}        Sivas 
    {Aleppo_Region}        Syria Region 
    {Aleppo}        Aleppo 
    {Edessa_Region}        Edessa Region 
    {Edessa}        Edessa 
    {Ardabil_Region}        Ardabil Region
    {Ardabil}        Ardabil
    {Kermanshah_Region}        Jibal Region 
    {Kermanshah}        Kermanshah 
    {Hamadan_Region}        Jibal Region 
    {Hamadan}        Hamadan 
    {Sari_Region}        Tabaristan Region 
    {Sari}        Sari 
    {Gorgan_Region}       Jurjanj Region 
    {Gorgan}        Gorgan
    {Nishapur_Region}        West Khorasan Region
    {Nishapur}        Nishapur 
    {Tus_Region}        West Khorasan Region
    {Tus}        Tus 
    {Firuzabad_Region}       Fars Region
    {Firuzabad}        Firuzabad 
    {Hormuz_Region}        Straight of Hormuz
    {Hormuz}        Hormuz 
    {Kerman_Region}        Kerman Region 
    {Kerman}        Kerman 
    {Yazd_Region}        Fars Region 
    {Yazd}        Yazd 
    {Saravan_Region}        Sistan Region 
    {Saravan}        Saravan 
    {Herat_Region}        East Khorasan Region 
    {Herat}        Herat 
    {Bamiyan_Region}        East Khorasan Region 
    {Bamiyan}        Bamiyan 
    {Birjand_Region}        Sistan Region 
    {Birjand}        Birjand 
    {Turbat_Region}        Makran Region 
    {Turbat}        Turbat 
    {Quetta_Region}        Makran Region 
    {Quetta}        Quetta 
    {Samarqand_Region}        Transoxania Region 
    {Samarqand}        Samarqand 
    {Bukhara_Region}        Transoxania Region 
    {Bukhara}        Bukhara 
    {Khiva_Region}        Khwarazm Region 
    {Khiva}        Khiva 
    {Merv_Region}        West Khorasan Region 
    {Merv}        Merv
    {Balkh_Region}        East Khorasan Region 
    {Balkh}        Balkh 
    {Kiev_Region}        Rus Region 
    {Kiev}        Kiev 
    {Caffa_Region}        Crimea Region 
    {Caffa}        Caffa 
    {Sarkel_Region}        Sarkel Region 
    {Sarkel}        Sarkel 
    {Ryazan_Region}        Rus Region 
    {Ryazan}        Ryazan 
    {Delhi_Region}        Delhi Region 
    {Delhi}        Delhi 
    {Mumba_Region}        Mumba Region 
    {Mumba}        Mumba 
    {Iraklion_Region}        Crete Island
    {Iraklion}        Iraklion 
    {Rhodes_Region}        Rhodes Island 
    {Rhodes}        Rhodes 
    {Lahore_Region}        Lahore Region 
    {Lahore}        Lahore 
    {Peshawar_Region}        The Khyber Pass
    {Peshawar}        Peshawar 
    {Kolachee_Region}        Sindh Region 
    {Kolachee}        Kolachee 
    {Derbent_Region}        Derbent Region 
    {Derbent}        Derbent 
    {Multan_Region}        Multan Region 
    {Multan}        Multan 
    {Ajmer_Region}        Ajmer Region 
    {Ajmer}        Ajmer 
    {Gwalior_Region}        Gwalior Region 
    {Gwalior}        Gwalior 
    {Anhilvara_Region}        Gujarat Region 
    {Anhilvara}        Anhilvara 
    {Kutch_Region}        Gujarat Region 
    {Kutch}        Kutch 
    {Urgench_Region}        Khwarazm Region 
    {Urgench}        Urgench 
    {Lhasa_Region}        The Himalayas
    {Lhasa}        Lhasa 
    {Telavi_Region}        Kakheti Region 
    {Telavi}        Telavi 
    {Khobani_Region}        Majar Region 
    {Khobani}        Majar 
    {Magas_Region}        Magas Region 
    {Magas}        Magas 
    {Varna_Region}        Moesia Region
    {Varna}        Varna 
    {Samandar_Region}        Samandar Region 
    {Samander}        Samandar 
    {Itil_Region}        Saqsin Region 
    {Itil}        Saqsin 
    {Kursk_Region}        Kursk Region 
    {Kursk}        Kursk 
    {Samarra_Region}        Iraq Region 
    {Samarra}        Samarra 
    {Sukkur_Region}        Sindh Region 
    {Sukkur}        Sukkur 
    {Uch_Region}        Uch Region 
    {Uch}        Uch 
    {Thanesar_Region}        Thanesar Region 
    {Thanesar}        Thanesar 
    {Kalinjar_Region}        Kalinjar Region 
    {Kalinjar}        Kalinjar 
    {Dhar_Region}        Dhar Region 
    {Dhar}        Dhar 
    {Tarsus_Region}        Cilicia Region 
    {Tarsus}        Tarsus 
    {Vahka_Region}        Vahka Region 
    {Vahka}        Vahka 
    {Amasia_Region}        Amasia Region 
    {Amasia}        Amasia 
    {Amisus_Region}        Amisus Region 
    {Amisus}        Amisus 
    {Dorylaeum_Region}        Dorylaeum Region 
    {Dorylaeum}        Dorylaeum 
    {Nicomedia_Region}        Nicomedia Region 
    {Nicomedia}        Nicomedia 
    {Mardin_Region}        Mardin Region 
    {Mardin}        Mardin 
    {Laodicea_Region}        Laodicea Region 
    {Laodicea}        Laodicea 
    {Thatta_Region}        Sindh Region 
    {Thatta}        Thatta 
    {Mitankot_Region}        Mitankot Region 
    {Mitankot}        Mitankot 
    {Kannauj_Region}        Kannauj Region 
    {Kannauj}        Kannauj 
    {Ghor_Region}        East Khorasan Region 
    {Ghor}        Firuzkuh
    {Gardez_Region}        Gardez Region 
    {Gardez}        Gardez 
    {Bost_Region}        Bost Region 
    {Bost}        Bost 
    {Tortosa_Region}        Lebanon Region 
    {Tortosa}        Tartus 
    {Khojand_Region}        Termez Region 
    {Khojand}        Termez 
    {Harran_Region}        Jazirah Region 
    {Harran}        Harran 
    {Nablus_Region}        Lebanon Region 
    {Nablus}        Baalbek 
    {Wasit_Region}        Iraq Region 
    {Wasit}        Wasit 
    {Bilbeis_Region}        Misr Region 
    {Bilbeis}        Bilbeis 
    {Jalandhar_Region}        Jalandhar Region 
    {Jalandhar}        Jalandhar 
    {Pindi_Region}        Pindi Region 
    {Pindi}        Pindi 
    {Seleukeia_Region}        Seleukeia Region 
    {Seleukeia}        Seleukeia 
    {Azov_Region}        Azaq Region 
    {Azov}        Azaq 
    {Asperon_Region}        Belgorod Region 
    {Asperon}        Belgorod 
    {Simferopol_Region}        Aqmesqit Region 
    {Simferopol}        Aqmesqit 
    {Somnath_Region}        Gujarat Region 
    {Somnath}        Somnath 
    {Mashad_Region}        West Khorasan Region 
    {Mashad}        Mashad 
    {Damghan_Region}        Damghan Region 
    {Damghan}        Damghan 
    {Heraclea_Region}        Heraclea Region 
    {Heraclea}        Heraclea 
    {Axum_Region}        Ethiopia Region 
    {Axum}        Axum 
    {Luxor1_Region}        Luxor Region 
    {Luxor1}        Luxor 
    {Faras_Region}        Faras Region 
    {Faras}        Faras 
    {Dongola_Region}        Dongola Region 
    {Dongola}        Dongola 
    {Qasr_Ibrim_Region}        Qasr Ibrim Region 
    {Qasr_Ibrim}        Qasr Ibrim 
    {Meroe_Region}        Meroe Region 
    {Meroe}        Meroe 
    {Hama_Region}        Hama Region 
    {Hama}        Hama 
    {Debarwa_Region}        Debarwa Region 
    {Debarwa}        Debarwa 
    {Qazvin_Region}        Qazvin Region 
    {Qazvin}        Qazvin 
    {Dvin_Region}        Dvin Region 
    {Dvin}        Dvin 
    {Amorium_Region}        Amorium Region 
    {Amorium}        Amorium 
    {Kirsehir_Region}        Kirsehir Region 
    {Kirsehir}        Kirsehir 
    {Astrakhan_Region}        Astrakhan Region 
    {Astrakhan}        Astrakhan 
    {Salalah_Region}        Hadramut Region 
    {Salalah}        Salalah 
    {Taiz_Region}        Yemen Region 
    {Taiz}        Ta'iz 
    {Gwadar_Region}        Makran Region 
    {Gwadar}        Gwadar 
    {Nizwa_Region}        Oman Region 
    {Nizwa}        Nizwa 
    {Suhar_Region}        Oman Region 
    {Suhar}        Suhar 
    {Bela_Region}        Makran Region 
    {Bela}        Bela 
    {Mansura_Region}        Sindh Region
    {Mansura}        Mansura
    {Kirkuk_Region}        Kirkuk Region
    {Kirkuk}        Kirkuk
    {Anbar_Region}        Iraq Region
    {Anbar}        Anbar 
    {Hillah_Region}        Iraq Region
    {Hillah}        Hillah 
    {Amol_Region}        Tabaristan Region 
    {Amol}        Amol 
    {Diyarbakir_Region}        Amid Region
    {Diyarbakir}        Amid
    {Bam_Region}        Kerman Region
    {Bam}        Bam
    {Zaranj_Region}        Sistan Region
    {Zaranj}        Zaranj
    {Karaman_Region}        Karaman Region
    {Karaman}        Karaman 
    {Tmurtarakan_Region}        Tmurtarakan Region 
    {Tmurtarakan}        Tmurtarakan
    Last edited by Miraj; May 11, 2008 at 11:57 PM.

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    How to deal with several settlements in the same region? Like for instance Tus Nishapur and the castle between them are all in the region of Khorisan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Inanimatus View Post
    How to deal with several settlements in the same region? Like for instance Tus Nishapur and the castle between them are all in the region of Khorisan?
    Simple. The engine reads the name in the parenthesis but displays what's outside the parenthesis ingame. So....

    {Nishapur_Region} Khorisan Region
    {Nishapur} Nishapur
    {Tus_Region} Khorisan Region
    {Tus} Tus

    The names in the parenthesis must be different but not the names outside the parenthesis.

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    East Khorisan, West Khorasan, Khorasan Major, etc.

    Could be one way of sorting it out.

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    Hmm actually yeah I guess that is a way around multiple regions that belong to one historical province.

    Anyways, if you have the historical regional name of a given city (ie kutaisi -> kartli, Nishapur -> west khorasan, Somnath -> south Gujarat) then please post it and we can edit the intial file as we go.

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    Instead of Varna, Eastern Moesia or even Eastern Bulgaria would be more appropriate. The best however would be to name it with the appropriate name of the Eastern Roman tema at the time. For all the temas, I hope that ERE experts will help.

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    Varna in ERE would be more appropriate to be called Thema Paristrion - as it was known before the 1185 rebellion. Otherwise it could be called Moesia
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    The Damyut city in Egypt. It's Dumyat.


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    Oh... you can have the same name in the external name. Sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage41 View Post
    Oh... you can have the same name in the external name. Sweet.
    sure can my friend

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    Van--> Vaspurakan
    Ani--> Vanand
    Karin (Erzurum)--> Bardzr Hayk
    Diyarbakir (Amid)--> Mets Tsopk The rulers of the area at this point, however were predominantly Kurdish but extra names can't hurt
    I'm not sure about the historical regions of Yerevan and Dvin. Dvin may been merely Dvin, but I'm not sure so I'd rather not venture a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrAr View Post
    Van--> Vaspurakan
    Ani--> Vanand
    Karin (Erzurum)--> Bardzr Hayk
    Diyarbakir (Amid)--> Mets Tsopk The rulers of the area at this point, however were predominantly Kurdish but extra names can't hurt
    I'm not sure about the historical regions of Yerevan and Dvin. Dvin may been merely Dvin, but I'm not sure so I'd rather not venture a guess.

    what the hell... why change to armenian names... those are the turkish names because turks ruled those areas

    and armenians only ruled them in 528 BC and before.... after that they were vassals of romans and sent to cilicia till the seljuk turks kicked them out again, which afterwards they never had a country again


    please don't allow such a great mod to fall prey to armenian ultra nationalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efe Pasha View Post

    please don't allow such a great mod to fall prey to armenian ultra nationalism
    lol.

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    This mod sucks. Its on the payroll of the nationalists
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    you forgot the Dues. Really big in Washington.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahiga View Post
    This mod sucks. Its on the payroll of the nationalists
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    Great thing about a Middle Eastern mod, though...don't see too many Ghurids, Ghaznavids, or Khwarzeminids running around these days, so no "OMGZ KHWRZM NED MR HVY INFTRY THY PWN 1337!!11one"

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    I edited in Van and Ani's proper provincial name.

    For Erzurum and Diyarbakir are those Armenian names or just general names?

    For Yerevan and Dvin would it be proper to use something like "Armenia Province" or "Western Armenia"/"Eastern Armenia".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage41 View Post
    I edited in Van and Ani's proper provincial name.

    For Erzurum and Diyarbakir are those Armenian names or just general names?

    For Yerevan and Dvin would it be proper to use something like "Armenia Province" or "Western Armenia"/"Eastern Armenia".
    Those are Armenian names. I think for Diyarbakir it should probably have a Kurdish name because of the ruling class--which was more deep rooted than the ruling class of Karin/Erzurum at the time. For Karin/Erzurum (quite the po-tay'-to and po-taw'-to issue), it is subject to much debate. This calls for light treading because of the necessity to not step on cultural toes, which is immensely difficult in Anatolia and the Caucasus, let alone other locales included in BC's epic scope though this is much easier because with such an intelligent group here at TWC, Turkish/Armenian/everyone's toes are much more durable!

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    I will post my findings tomorrow, because there is a lot of debate amongst historians about the arabian lands and so far i haven't settled with the many sides of this discussion,
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    Why not use one name for city and another for province then? Like Erzurum I picked because I read a seljuk atabeg/breakaway was in control there. So we can keep it Erzurum and name the province "Karin Province"?

    As far as actual Armenian homeland goes, it should be Armenian names regardless of what transient warlord was in control.

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