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    Default Please change the spears!!

    Please, please, please for the next version of this mod can you get rid of the vanilla spears!! They just look horrible compared to what I have seen in some of the mods out there. I would do it myself but I just don't have the time at the moment!! Same goes for Vanilla shields. i.e the colours of the Hungarian Pavise shields. yuck!!

    Thanks.

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    Agreed, about the spears at least. The vanilla spears are not very dangerous looking compared to how they can look.

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    wow your are whining about spears think about us that play muslim factions, watching your general swing around a lil knife instead of a freaking sabre-

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Melhi View Post
    wow your are whining about spears think about us that play muslim factions, watching your general swing around a lil knife instead of a freaking sabre-
    No reason to be antagonist. Its a legitimate request as is your comment regarding the Muslim factions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo View Post
    No reason to be antagonist. Its a legitimate request as is your comment regarding the Muslim factions.
    Av i was way to aggresive with my words sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melhi View Post
    Av i was way to aggresive with my words sorry about that.
    What about the Generals bodyguards of the Muslim factions? Well I don't know about the Turks and Egyptians but the Moorish lances are way too short!!

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    spears do need to be replaced, I have seen Lego spears more deadly and realistic.

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    Some new spears and other weapons would be sweet.

    ps I don't know why moders wont share and share alike

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    I find it personly a bit strange that all two handed axes are the same, I am sure that there would be a difference between those of the norse axemen and those of the egyptian infantry with the odd name. (which would work great for scrabble)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    I find it personly a bit strange that all two handed axes are the same, I am sure that there would be a difference between those of the norse axemen and those of the egyptian infantry with the odd name. (which would work great for scrabble)
    YES! YES! YESSSSSSSSSSS! Sorry I lost my composure for a minute. I would like to see some differences in weapns like axes across the different factions.
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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    What kind of changes are you looking for in the spears? Longer? Heftier? Varying lengths? Simple skin change? All of the above?


    Changing the size of spears is a simple process in Milkshape, just select the spears and scale them, then move them after scaling.

    Changing textures is also easy, and probably less time consuming than the mesh editing of each unit.

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sher Khan View Post
    What kind of changes are you looking for in the spears? Longer? Heftier? Varying lengths? Simple skin change? All of the above?


    Changing the size of spears is a simple process in Milkshape, just select the spears and scale them, then move them after scaling.

    Changing textures is also easy, and probably less time consuming than the mesh editing of each unit.
    well first of all i think that they must be longer,then the blades should also be changed since vanilla spears use a blade that is more likely that of an arrow...i agree with all 2h axes being the same is a bit odd,well that is true for swords,maces,1h axes,2h axes etc.etc....i think that we have to face the fact that since SS uses vanilla weapons a HUGE amount of work is needed...i wonder why talented skinners such as Burrek or Disgruntled Goats never bothered to change weapons...let's hope we will have new weapons for future SS versions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goffredo View Post
    well first of all i think that they must be longer,then the blades should also be changed since vanilla spears use a blade that is more likely that of an arrow...i agree with all 2h axes being the same is a bit odd,well that is true for swords,maces,1h axes,2h axes etc.etc....i think that we have to face the fact that since SS uses vanilla weapons a HUGE amount of work is needed...i wonder why talented skinners such as Burrek or Disgruntled Goats never bothered to change weapons...let's hope we will have new weapons for future SS versions...
    Agreed a complete overhaul of the Vanilla weapons would be nice

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    lol we agree with each other...anyway hopefully this topic would persuade KK that after the release of 6.0 new weapons are a priority...

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sher Khan View Post
    What kind of changes are you looking for in the spears? Longer? Heftier? Varying lengths? Simple skin change? All of the above?


    Changing the size of spears is a simple process in Milkshape, just select the spears and scale them, then move them after scaling.

    Changing textures is also easy, and probably less time consuming than the mesh editing of each unit.
    My main issue is the tip of the spear. You only have to look at the tips of the vanilla spear and compare with the BC spears to see the difference in quality. DLV also have some nice spears for the Georgians. It's a shame as some on this thread have said that some modders are apparently reluctant to share their work. If I had created something I would be delighted that others would want to use my work and would be happy to let them do so provided I received credit.

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MagyarMatt View Post
    My main issue is the tip of the spear. You only have to look at the tips of the vanilla spear and compare with the BC spears to see the difference in quality. DLV also have some nice spears for the Georgians. It's a shame as some on this thread have said that some modders are apparently reluctant to share their work. If I had created something I would be delighted that others would want to use my work and would be happy to let them do so provided I received credit.
    totally agree with you MagyarMatt

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    Motion seconded

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    For those who don't know what we are talking about. Try downloading BC, its awesome!!

    Check out the spear units, axe units (they are varied) they are really unique looking. If they can't be used from BC, then definitely attempting to create similar ones, or even better ones would be awesome.
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    Well, most spear units have a different spearhead for their weapon upgrade.

    How do you guys like that shape?

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    Default Re: Please change the spears!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sher Khan View Post
    Well, most spear units have a different spearhead for their weapon upgrade.

    How do you guys like that shape?
    the upgraded spearhead is surely better then the original one but imo it is far from good...i was thinking of something more like this:



    obviously it would be awesome if we could have different spearheads for different periods and cultures that are shown in the game...

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