Whats the difference?

**Ojf** · February 23, 2008, 06:21 PM

Between playing Rome Total Realism with BI and RTW, im sorry but im not used to this subforum

**florin80** · February 23, 2008, 06:30 PM

#9:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121118

**Ojf** · February 23, 2008, 06:33 PM

So because i have BI, would it be better to play with BI?

**QuintusSertorius** · February 23, 2008, 06:43 PM

If you play RTR with BI, does that mean factions can come back "from the dead"?

**Ojf** · February 23, 2008, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

If you play RTR with BI, does that mean factions can come back "from the dead"?

Thats one of the things i wanted to find out from this topic

**Brusilov** · February 23, 2008, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

If you play RTR with BI, does that mean factions can come back "from the dead"?

Originally Posted by Ojf

Thats one of the things i wanted to find out from this topic

No it's not possible.

That's only every happened in MTW. It's not possible in RTW based games unless it's modded in (using scripts maybe).

@Ojf - forgot to mention the game is better with RTW BI than RTW. There are more naval invasions.

**Ojf** · February 23, 2008, 07:26 PM

Ok ill try it out tomorrow

**QuintusSertorius** · February 25, 2008, 06:24 AM

Hmm, in which case I'll continue to hold off on getting BI. That's the only reason I'd have wanted it was the possibility that the small factions could return again. If I need it for VII then I'll get it then.

**MCM** · February 25, 2008, 07:26 AM

For the other features available in BI, its worth it....

**QuintusSertorius** · February 25, 2008, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by MarcusCorneliusMarcellus

For the other features available in BI, its worth it....

What like? I've seen "better" AI mentioned, and a lot of features that require scripting that's absent from PE.

Night battles? Are they really any good?
Swimming? Is that a big change?

BI wouldn't be an expensive acquisition for me, but I have no interest in vanilla BI at all (covers a period of history I don't care about). What are the noticeable changes in my RTR experience with BI?

**florin80** · February 25, 2008, 07:36 AM

You can have nightbattles in RTW v1.5. You don`t need BI for that. And, as it says in the FAQ it doesn`t do anything for RTRPE besides the better AI, more agresive/competent naval invasions and the can swim ability iirc. The rest would need to be activated either via modding your own game or installing a mini-mod/add-on on top of it. Such things as hording for example.

**AngryTitusPullo** · February 25, 2008, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Swimming? Is that a big change?

Well, with swimming ability one can no longer easily camp on the bridgehead with missiles at the back shooting at the AI when they tried to cross.

**Brusilov** · February 25, 2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by LestaT

Well, with swimming ability one can no longer easily camp on the bridgehead with missiles at the back shooting at the AI when they tried to cross.

The downside of the swimming ability is that the unit emerges from the water in a 'tired' state. Easy for the slaughter.

I've played games where the AI attempts to swim across near a bridge. The unit just ends up as a bunch of dead bodies floating down the stream.....

**Ojf** · February 25, 2008, 08:08 AM

haha so true

**QuintusSertorius** · February 25, 2008, 10:54 AM

I can honestly count the number of battles with rivers in them on one hand. In fact I think the only one I had was in a custom battle. Maybe I need to work harder on ambushing and forcing fights on rivers?