Settlements worldpathfinding edited

[Argantonio]

I obtained the file worldpathfinding modificated . ne_mill_a.
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Really it was representing coordinates map , but his exact interpretation escapes from me.
Try to transform it into image, but the information is slightly clear.
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The file modified is north_european/ambient settlements/ne_mill_a.worldpathfinding ( attached files), it allows to move for the whole settelment, to hide after the wall ,avoiding houses, mills and other objects.
The procedure is intuitive and complex, also it is to assign bones to every vertex , for modding new models.
The files pathfinding has regular sizes as it is the settlement, there are exchangeable those of settelment of equal size. This appears in the heading of the file (I don`t know how to translate) but is like that, they all them of 25 K are equal in the heading code.
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Using WinHex, is observed that most empty this of the file (3F 00 ?.) , and to regular spaces there appear fragments of code of equal size, 32 blocks of code of equal length, which they appear to regular intervals.
3F 80 62 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 ?€b.?.?.@.?.?.@.
3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 ?.?.@.?.?.@.?.?.
40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 @.?.?.@.?.?.@.?.
3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 ?.@.?.?.@.?.?.@.
3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 ?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.
3F 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 ?.?.?.@.?.?.@.?.
3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 ?.@.?.?.@.?.?.@.
3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 ?.?.@.?.?.@.?.?.
40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 @.?.?.@.?.?.@.?.
3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 ?.@.?.?.@.?.?.@.
3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F 00 40 00 3F 00 3F FF ?.?.@.?.?.@.?.?ÿ

Every block of code initiates with a pair of values (3F 80 62 ?€b) and ends with other one ( 3F FF ?ÿ ) and between them spaces , and 27-28 @ are inserted.
Every block represents a horizontal line from the entry to the exit, they are 32 in whole.
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The values initial and final indicate that it is not possible to cross like them, if you remove the @ them the sutituyes for ? , already it is possible to enter.
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It is to say the model is a parallelogram horizontal line are 32 codes. Every code, if we empty it of @, allows to enter, modifies them as want, for example the entrance of hte settelment with 2 @ of width.
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The culebrins inside the farm and the soldiers going out of the enclosure for the entrance of 3 @ width.
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Problems: some zones the units enter in the objects, it makes fail to edit it more finely.
This is alone the beginning, so a castle has a file worldpathfinding of 10 megas.
Objetives:
I am looking that the units enter to the buildings by the door and hide themselves inside, making the interior hollow.
To block the entry ,with siege modificated "ej Barrier with stakes "http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141969
preventing the entry to the enemies.
I continue working

[wolfslayer]

Very good work! Look like you have made some great progress..I will try place the mill on a custom map and see how the units move through it..;-)

[SigniferOne]

Wow, this is amazing! And right along KnightErrant and wolfslayer's alley as well!

Do the walls in the mill actually protect the soldiers from damage?

[wolfslayer]

Yes they do; as part of the world collision model; I have a bullet effects set I've been working on where you can see and hear the projectile impacts on these walls..I'll try and put a short video clip up soon to demonstrate.

[wolfslayer]

It's going to take me a while to decifer how you did this, but I get the general idea, I want to see if I have any success editing the little ruined circle.

Did you find any hex coordinates that plot the outline dimensions of the collision model?

[Argantonio]

The modified file, ruined_circle_a.
(north_european\ambient_settlements\ruined_circle_a)
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it follows the same principle , the lines of code are horizontal lines, it is more difficultly to modify because the structure is curved.
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It has small faults but it works.
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All inside the circle
It does not protect too much before a storm of arrows and fire.
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Like your soldiers enter to tha circle ,the enemy also can.

[wolfslayer]

Amazing; I need to learn how to do this so we can modify all the ambient settlements and techtree models.

Ok where did you get the banner....;_)

[Argantonio]

Looks at the third post
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=144555

[Argantonio]

The modified file, small_fortified_house_a
(north_european\ambient_settlements\small_fortified_house_a)
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Is a quadrangular settelment , totally compact building without hollows.
On it having modified it empty and you leave a space for the entry .The unit can enter by the door, (though it is not opened).
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It allows to hide units and pieces of artillery.
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Really the enemies can to enter by the same door , and the battle happens in the interior.
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In order that this structure works, it is necessary a trick: in the other three sides of the building, there are a empty space, which does not allow to enter or to go out, you should click in this space. Without this space, it might not enter to small_fortified_house.
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It appears some bug in these zones
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A possibility is to edit the texture and to draw the half-open door.
Or more complex to try to copy the door funcionant of a castle...
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I continue working:hmmm:

[SigniferOne]

Argantonio, great stuff. The next step is making the CASTLE KEEPS editable. You know how in citadels you have three rings of walls, but the inner castle has lots of room but cannot be entered into? It would be GREAT if we made that walkable! Take a look at citadels, you'll know what I'm talking about!

[wolfslayer]

Argantonio, great stuff. The next step is making the CASTLE KEEPS editable. You know how in citadels you have three rings of walls, but the inner castle has lots of room but cannot be entered into? It would be GREAT if we made that walkable! Take a look at citadels, you'll know what I'm talking about!

The NE Citadel has a huge area that is inaccessible; I just fought a big siege battle in my campaign and made a few screens







You might be able to move on this wall, I know on TC Castle I had archers circumvent the entire wall; they move through the long covered hallways.

[Argantonio]

When you say NE Citadel ... that model is NE_city_a, NE_huge_city_a ,NE_large_city_a ,NE_town_a o NE_village_a.

[AnthoniusII]

The NE Citadel has a huge area that is inaccessible; I just fought a big siege battle in my campaign and made a few screens







You might be able to move on this wall, I know on TC Castle I had archers circumvent the entire wall; they move through the long covered hallways.

Is it possible to entry the winning/loosing sqweare of a settlement in here?
It would be realistic to capture the ruller's house to get the settlement!!!

[born2dive67]

all I can say is wow and keep up the excellent work


I think everyone who is watching this is doing the above

[wolfslayer]

Very nice I will put all this in custom battle AND ambient settlements so they will spawn in campaign.

[KnightErrant]

Ok, I'm in. I'll look at the .world files. These should follow
the regular settlements; villages, towns, etc.
If they have vertices, tris, and uvs then it comes down to the
two mystery blocks: lighting and animation. If CA still has the budget
for supporting questions, then we could get the answer for this, and modding
this part will speak to the other, i.e. towns and so forth.

[wolfslayer]

I wonder if a basic .py worldpathfinding editor would be feasible; something that could maybe load a grid texture as a template.

Anyways the dimensions are pretty easy to find, the 12th bit after serialization archive

ne_mill_a

64 64

132 11 152 63

ne_small_fortified_house_a

64 64


231 73 167 64

ne_ruined_circle_a

16 16

205 204 76 61

SE_medium_fortified_house_a would make a sweet minifort

128 x 128



It even has the black doorways if we ever get to the point of doing "levels" where the unit enters and hidden from view, walks straight up or at an extreme angle to the walls.

[AnthoniusII]

I wonder if a basic .py worldpathfinding editor would be feasible; something that could maybe load a grid texture as a template.

Anyways the dimensions are pretty easy to find, the 12th bit after serialization archive

ne_mill_a

64 64

132 11 152 63

ne_small_fortified_house_a

64 64


231 73 167 64

ne_ruined_circle_a

16 16

205 204 76 61

SE_medium_fortified_house_a would make a sweet minifort

128 x 128



It even has the black doorways if we ever get to the point of doing "levels" where the unit enters and hidden from view, walks straight up or at an extreme angle to the walls.

This is the style of stone fort for byzantines wolfslayer,not the west ones!

[Argantonio]

Someone said in this thread, for which the units not to raise it , to the roofs and to the towers more high...
Shooting arrows from the roof, the dome has been burst by the mortars , this settlement is ME_Small_Monestary_A
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On the roof of the monastery , se_monastery_small
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Waiting from the battlements of ME_Small_Fortified_House_A
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All that this one in phase of tests, remains great for doing, only it is a sample of which it is possible to do.

[wolfslayer]

"This is the style of stone fort for byzantines wolfslayer,not the west ones!"

Can use this for byz fort if you want..