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    hey, just wondering when the mongols are comming near my K-waz-empire?
    Any details about their effect?

    Iam also in war with the other horde (northwest), the great sultan and and the Gaznys. bad relations from the rayput to the abbaysd*. I currently have all the Kwaz-dessert citys and the three/four montain regiones south of the capital.

    Tips would be great-

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    you die-die, human thing (skaven citation)


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    look at all those stars, scary indeed.
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    My god... I'm seriously reconsidering playing as the Khwarezm...

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    You should be ok. Just bum rush to either Azerbaijan or India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackleaf View Post
    hey, just wondering when the mongols are comming near my K-waz-empire?
    Think they come in 1219 near Samarkand, judging from other posts I've read.
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    hehe, you still need to think after looking at the screenshot?
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    There's no date on that screenshot. Oh you mean where they spawn, yeah that's obvious innit d00d.

    I'm playing the Shah, I'm looking forward to a good fight ! Mongols in vanilla were a HUGE disappointment. I'm pretty sure in BC they can be beat as well but even if I lose I'l be glad if I have some great epic battles. I think best would be to block all the bridges, just to gauge what can be done, then it would be an attrition game, I guess. In my current campaign I can field about 15-18 full stacks by 1219, don't think it's going to be enough.
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    Yeah, when I was the K Shah, I had decided Bukhara was a sacrifice, as there was no proper way to defend it, but all the entrances elsewhere were blocked by forts.

    They were never fortified, as I never played up to the mongols (short att. span).
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    i saved up around 500k as khwarazm, and by the time the mongols got to my realm, i had 14 full stacks waiting for them. right now its a complete deadlock, every time i aproach them they run away, but i now have them cornered in a mountain pass, the only problem is, is that i can't exploit my superior numbers, hence the deadlock.




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    They are not that bad....... they are much worse. I'm dealing with them right now and well i have 3 stacks left, i had 6 in the beginning and they have lost 3 or 4 stacks.

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    1219 and you can field 15 stacks??? plz post a screen shot of your finance screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craziii View Post
    1219 and you can field 15 stacks??? plz post a screen shot of your finance screen.

    i have no idea how to post screens, but heres what i did-

    -took ALL of persia from the seljuks and sacked EVERY settlement, i then took all of ghazni, sacking everything and randsoming all the captured soldiers (the rajputs took all of what the ghorids had)

    -salutary neglect, i only built what was absolutly nessesary and would benefit my economy (paved roads mostly)

    -most of my armies were low level spearmen, my whole strategy was to overcome them with wave upon wave of spears.

    -the only high level unit i used was kalaj turkish archers

    the downside is that i'm making about $1000 a turn and it takes about four of my armies to defeat one of theres. also most of my provinces are in near rebellion due to the lack of soldiers (you'll be suprised at how much men you have if you drain all of your cities of them).




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    It would be much easier if the BC team had used Kingdoms, cause the AI already sucks and ussually loses within 1 minute against the Mongols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggthief View Post
    It would be much easier if the BC team had used Kingdoms, cause the AI already sucks and ussually loses within 1 minute against the Mongols.
    It would have been much harder for us to port things over in medias res.

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    Well ok I understand but can´t u limit the Mongols a slight bit? Cause ussually u have to fight at least 3 armies at the same time and like I said u can't trust the AI to control one or more of your armies.

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    Kwaz. 1213:

    ooookey.... I have taken a kypchak castle(west from the village in the north) and I wonder if I shold just move my entire Empire there and start from scratch...

    Were is the best place to settle down as a plan B? since all my army is scattered across the map with many merc, all my generals and family members is corrupt in every way and the only ally I got is the georgians. 24 000 and decreasing.

    I think there is a good chance my Empire will get raped, but my where? where do they travel etc? south east? west?
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    I have seen them go many places
    wish you luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggthief View Post
    Well ok I understand but can´t u limit the Mongols a slight bit? Cause ussually u have to fight at least 3 armies at the same time and like I said u can't trust the AI to control one or more of your armies.
    Why not tone them done by yourself just go into the broken_cresent/data/world/campaign/imperial_campaign then from there go into the campaign_script.txt search for THE MONGOL INVASIONS then scroll done find where the armies start then start deleting the armies, not the generals bodyguard though, you will have to start a new campaign in order for it to take affect.

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