Alexander total war exe for RS!

[Marku]

Hey guys and RS team

is there any plans to get alexander.exe to work with RS? im currently using it for EB mod. it allows AI to retrain its armies for example.

[Nellup]

I believe it is already possible too, at least someone around here has (Brusilov, I think), It might require some tweaking though.

[Brusilov]

It's simple (I have seen some very complex methods offered). This method was suggested by Maced0n over in the RTR forum

1) Copy the 'RomeRTW_ALX.exe' into your RS main game folder.
2) Copy the 'chat_filter.san' file to the RS data folder
3) Add a shortcut with -mod: at the end of the target

The following is the shortcut target that I use;

"C:\Program Files\Activision\RTW Roma Surrectum 1.5a\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -nm -show_err -mod: -movie_cam

[AngryTitusPullo]

It's simple (I have seen some very complex methods offered). This method was suggested by Maced0n over in the RTR forum

1) Copy the 'RomeRTW_ALX.exe' into your RS main game folder.
2) Copy the 'chat_filter.san' file to the RS data folder
3) Add a shortcut with -mod: at the end of the target

The following is the shortcut target that I use;

"C:\Program Files\Activision\RTW Roma Surrectum 1.5a\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -nm -show_err -mod: -movie_cam

You might have to add an immortal trait too. If not you character will live unless killed in battle.

[MacLiamLeah]

You might have to add an immortal trait too. If not you character will live unless killed in battle.

Where do i get that ? and if i not add it my family members and generals will all become like 203 years old ?

Is it so that you will also lose all bi specific things; like certain formations (schiltrom,etc) and nightbattles?

[Syntax Error]

Is it so that you will also lose all bi specific things; like certain formations (schiltrom,etc) and nightbattles?

I'm also wondering about that, if you lose BI-specific traits such as shield-wall (for the Sword Hoplites) and the ability to swim across rivers in bridge battles makes for interesting tactics.

If the AI is much of an improvement, I may switch over the ALX.exe.

[AveCaesar]

You might have to add an immortal trait too. If not you character will live unless killed in battle.

I'm obviously a little late getting into the run RS through ALEX game, but I don't understand. How can adding the Immortal trait (without any triggers that I can see), make my characters die normally? No one in any thread has actually EXPLAINED why giving a trait (one that means you can't die) in the traits section actually makes the characters mortal. And without a trigger, how would they get it?



p.s sorry for bumping this thread, but I really needed to find an answer.

[Squid]

I'm obviously a little late getting into the run RS through ALEX game, but I don't understand. How can adding the Immortal trait (without any triggers that I can see), make my characters die normally? No one in any thread has actually EXPLAINED why giving a trait (one that means you can't die) in the traits section actually makes the characters mortal. And without a trigger, how would they get it?



p.s sorry for bumping this thread, but I really needed to find an answer.

This is purely a guess on my part, but I assume that if the alex exe cannot find an Immortal trait while parsing the trait files, it assumes that all characters are Immortal (seems backwards to how I'd have coded it, but oh well), so by adding the Immortal trait, the exe says "hmm, the Immortal trait will only keep those characters that have it from dying", so when no character has it, they all die normally.

For 1.5b, when it's released, I've added in the Immortal trait, as well as the chat_filter.san file, so RS should be compatible with alex without any modification required.

[AveCaesar]

Great! Thanks SquidSK! Now that makes sense. I appreciate yout time.

[Octavius-Augustus]

It's simple (I have seen some very complex methods offered). This method was suggested by Maced0n over in the RTR forum

1) Copy the 'RomeRTW_ALX.exe' into your RS main game folder.
2) Copy the 'chat_filter.san' file to the RS data folder
3) Add a shortcut with -mod: at the end of the target

The following is the shortcut target that I use;

"C:\Program Files\Activision\RTW Roma Surrectum 1.5a\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -nm -show_err -mod: -movie_cam

Does this work, Brusilov?

Okay guys, I'm kinda confused. I read the EB description of using ALX.exe and got it, but does the same method apply to RS? Can someone who already is using Alex with RS explain step by step what to do? That will be helpful for everyone, not only me.

Now, my questions: (Excuse their stupidity, no knowledge of ALX)

1. In order to have the RomeTW-ALX.exe, do I have to actually install Alexander? Question applies to the other file as well.
2. After I copy these files, I add the immortal trait ONLY, just like the 'Alexander EB' thread says. Then mod the shortcut and play? That's it?
3. What's the movie_cam attribute?

Thanks in advance

[Brusilov]

Does this work, Brusilov?

Okay guys, I'm kinda confused. I read the EB description of using ALX.exe and got it, but does the same method apply to RS? Can someone who already is using Alex with RS explain step by step what to do? That will be helpful for everyone, not only me.

Now, my questions: (Excuse their stupidity, no knowledge of ALX)

1. In order to have the RomeTW-ALX.exe, do I have to actually install Alexander? Question applies to the other file as well.
2. After I copy these files, I add the immortal trait ONLY, just like the 'Alexander EB' thread says. Then mod the shortcut and play? That's it?
3. What's the movie_cam attribute?

Thanks in advance

Yes, it works.

If you follow the copying of the files you can launch a RS game based on RTW ALX.exe (adding the properties to the shortcut).

What happens then is that some characters become immortal - not the end of the world but probably best avoided.

What I did then is use the bits to add the immortal trait as per the EB thread.

I had Alexander installed into another folder. I keep various clean copies of the game in separate folders which are then copied to other folders and then used as a base for a mod. I don't think you can extract the files from the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM (if you have those).

The '-movie_cam' switch allows replays to be played back with more control over the movement of the camera.

[Lucius Tiberius Vorenus]

It's simple (I have seen some very complex methods offered). This method was suggested by Maced0n over in the RTR forum

1) Copy the 'RomeRTW_ALX.exe' into your RS main game folder.
2) Copy the 'chat_filter.san' file to the RS data folder
3) Add a shortcut with -mod: at the end of the target

The following is the shortcut target that I use;

"C:\Program Files\Activision\RTW Roma Surrectum 1.5a\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -nm -show_err -mod: -movie_cam

1) Do you just install Alexander over RS?
2) where is this 'chat_filter.san' file. located? Which RTW/Data/Folder
3) I have no idea what you're talking about. at the end of what target? a shortcut for what? How do I create this shortcut.. right click/create shortcut/rename? Which shortcut do I use(Alexander or RTW) to create the new shorcut or does it matter?Once I do create this shortcut, where do I place it in my RTW folder? I'm assuming I'm just creating a new shortcut to launch the game...?

Just FYI most of my modding leads to catastrophic CTD's at game launch, most of which I cannot fix and have to do a total reinstall, thus the plethera of questions.

Sorry I know some of these have been asked but I'm still quite lost. Please help. I have Alexander Setup.exe at the low ready, waiting to install...

[reggaeroman]

Do you need the alexander cd in the drive to play alx.exe or would it as well work with the rome cd in the drive

[Squid]

Do you need the alexander cd in the drive to play alx.exe or would it as well work with the rome cd in the drive

Personally, questions like this irritate me, because in the time it took you to post the question and then wait around for a response you could have tested it yourself (twice probably), and not bothered posting. If you happen to not be able to test it where you are, then the amount of time you save by knowing is ~5 seconds, and again you wasted more time posting about it, when you could have been doing something more useful instead.

[Brusilov]

Do you need the alexander cd in the drive to play alx.exe or would it as well work with the rome cd in the drive

You need the Alexander DVD in the drive to play the game. As SquidSK has posted you could have found this by yourself.

[coinich]

Retrain armies?

[Ephialtes The Dog]

Yeah you know like how in vannila the AI doesn't retrain it just merges. I'm seriously thinking about switching from the bi.exe to the Alx.exe as the AI is much better.

[Wolfstorm]

Im already using it, the AI is much better and you dont have units scattering across the battlefield (so-called "phalanx bug" because it happens mostly with phalanxes). But alexander.exe dont work with some other mods, like RTRPE for example.

[Cyrus the Virus]

Im already using it, the AI is much better and you dont have units scattering across the battlefield (so-called "phalanx bug" because it happens mostly with phalanxes). But alexander.exe dont work with some other mods, like RTRPE for example.

Oy! That is cool to hear. Always hated how the phalanx would go crazy.

[ptg]

I forgot to ask – I think I saw somewhere that using the ALX.exe enables the use of more units in ‘desc_model_battle.txt’? I know RTW is limited to 244. Anyone know what it is for BI and ALX?