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    Default Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    the titles is halfway to understand my ''problem''


    after sawing (sp.) all mapping threads and tutorials i still can't make it work...

    soo please don't give me any tutorial link...if you do it must be how to extend your map - step by step...becouse i can't find any that teaches that...


    even if only extend it by a pixel..using the correct resize:

    disasters.tga - The same size as map_regions.tga
    map_climates.tga - Twice the size of map_regions.tga + one pixel
    map_features.tga - The same size as map_regions.tga
    map_ground_types.tga - Twice the size of map_regions.tga + one pixel
    map_heights.tga - Twice the size as map_regions.tga + one pixel
    map_roughness - Twice the size as map_regions.tga.
    map_trade_routes.tga - The same size as map_regions.tga
    radar_map1.tga - The same size as map_regions.tga
    radar_map2.tga - Twice the size of regions.tga

    images will be greatly appreciated....
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    The easiest thing (what I did when I was learning), wasto attach a large bit of sea to the north of the map, essentially doubling its size. That way, all calculations can be done quite easily, and you see the principle of how it works.

    Once you understand that, you can add an island, as neutral as possible (one height, one landcover.

    The trick is to increase the complexity of what you are doing. Don't try to make a big map just like that, from nothing. It would (probably) fail.

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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    thanks for the help


    but i only want to extend the map to EAST..


    but the easiest way is to start adding first ONLY to NORTH ? (simplest way)...


    then how can i extend to east without errors ?...but still simple
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    Do exactly the same: add a bit of sea that doubles length of your map in an eastward direction (I just said north because that was what I did). When that works, make it more complex.

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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    i did it


    but im always having a error

    not a error

    but the game goes back to the main menu..

    and no system.log information

    the only error it says is in the descr_strat, that the resources are placed in the wrong tiles

    I recommend that you resize from the top right hand corner, as all measurements in descr_strat.txt are measured from the bottom left hand corner. If you want to resize in another direction, you will have to change all the co-ordinates in descr_strat.
    i don't understand this...:hmmm:

    Do exactly the same: add a bit of sea that doubles length of your map in an eastward direction (I just said north because that was what I did). When that works, make it more complex.
    make the horizontal size of the map the double ?

    and do the same in all the other things ?




    and why no experienced mapper comes over here ?

    like grneyedvl or spurius...
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    I will get a tutorial written for this soon, I have been meaning to do that anyways.

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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    Did you delete map.rwm?

    By the way: The first thing to do would be to establish a working mod folder, as any tampering with the map may ruin your game.

    So, lets make an example:

    lets say that the original map_regions has the dimensions 100x50 (it has not, but lets say it has). Map_climates then has the dimensions 201_101.

    Now, I suggest you do everything based on map_regions:
    double the length of the map to the east by attaching an ocean. Your map now has the dimensions 200x50.
    Now go into the map_climates and double the map by attaching a climate so that the map now has double the length. This map should now have the dimensions 401x201, the left hand side is the original, and the right hand side is any climate.

    Do the same with all other maps, taking care of keeping the dimensions correct. Any mistake will lead to a failure of the map to load.
    The maps are some of the trickiest bits to mod, and there are endless possibilities for failure.

    What I think you did was to just extend the maps, without adding the apropriate tiles. Very obviously that will not work.

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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    i deleted maps.rwm....

    i alrerady add regions (easy) soo i know i have to delete it..and also, i am a experienced modder..


    let's see if this works



    Grneyeddvl

    thanks...
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    here's the download link to all the base files, and the imperial campaign files i changed

    http://www.2shared.com/file/2887027/51d1283a/map.html
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    forget this


    the errors are still comming
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    any help ?
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    Default Re: Can anyone Explain me (Detailly as possible) how to extend a map

    I MADE IT


    I EXPANDED THE MAP...

    IT'S NOT THAT DIFFUCULT...

    my problem was that the game wasn't creating a new map_heights.hgt

    i had to use the convertor (.tga to .hgt)

    pretty easy


    but im going to post HERE, yes right in this forum, the problems i might have (and i'll)
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