Mercenaries

**dajarvi** · February 19, 2008, 01:13 PM

Is it possible to turn mercenaries off? I find it might be interesting playing without the use of readily available mercs to throw into the fray.

**morteduzionism** · February 19, 2008, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by dajarvi

Is it possible to turn mercenaries off? I find it might be interesting playing without the use of readily available mercs to throw into the fray.

Probably. By installing/playing a different mod...

This mod is called Rome: Total Realism...lol...if you don't want to use the mercs, don't use the mercs.

If you're technically savvy you could probably raise the cost of them, that would make the AI less likely to use them.

**Brusilov** · February 19, 2008, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by dajarvi

Is it possible to turn mercenaries off? I find it might be interesting playing without the use of readily available mercs to throw into the fray.

Then don't hire them - make that one of your house rules.

Most of the Carthaginian armies were supposedly mercenaries.

**morteduzionism** · February 19, 2008, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Brusilov

Then don't hire them - make that one of your house rules.
Most of the Carthaginian armies were supposedly mercenaries.

:hmmm: I wonder how people decide on which mod they'll play? It has to be based on post count. RTR and EB have far and away the most posts...

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**Brusilov** · February 19, 2008, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by morteduzionism

:hmmm: I wonder how people decide on which mod they'll play? It has to be based on post count. RTR and EB have far and away the most posts...

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I've tried most of them. Each adds it's own features to RTW.

I tried EB a very long time ago and was a bit confused by all the names etc but I have been playing EB 1.0 and find it a lot better.

I've also been playing with Troy Total War on and off for a year or bit longer.

I started to play with Arthurian Total War - very hard at times.

I can't remember why or how I found RTR - it was the first mod I played for RTW back in the days of 5.4 (or earlier). I was always pleased to find a larger map with more settlements to conquer!

**QuintusSertorius** · February 23, 2008, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by morteduzionism

:hmmm: I wonder how people decide on which mod they'll play? It has to be based on post count. RTR and EB have far and away the most posts...

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Personally, RTR is the only one (besides NTW, which I still haven't played) which interested me at all.

**Maddicus** · February 26, 2008, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Brusilov

Then don't hire them - make that one of your house rules.

Most of the Carthaginian armies were supposedly mercenaries.

The idea that Carthage used merc troops versus what other civilizations used is a bit deceptive I think. Carthage had nothing like the Roman citizen army. They were among the wealthiest and most influential civilizations and because of this able to spend their money on the mercenary troops. They should be either given more income or less cost for the troops.

All civs used mercs of some sort. None, it seems, used them as much as Carthage did.

**Quinn Inuit** · February 19, 2008, 06:31 PM

I generally try to make mercs cost at least 2x what the unit would normally cost, to make up for their immediate availability. The exception is for Carthage, which (in the beta on which I'm currently working) gets to recruit them a little more cheaply at its home royal barracks as a nod to its historical reliance on mercs.

**Brusilov** · February 20, 2008, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Quinn Inuit

I generally try to make mercs cost at least 2x what the unit would normally cost, to make up for their immediate availability. The exception is for Carthage, which (in the beta on which I'm currently working) gets to recruit them a little more cheaply at its home royal barracks as a nod to its historical reliance on mercs.

I always thought that mercenaries were more expensive than the equivalent troops that you could train. I've not looked into that though.

I use mercenaries to add units to my armies that I cannot train up myself. As Romans I pick up Cretian Archers.

Mercenaries can be used as a stop gap to boost the size of an army but if I ever do that then tend to be disbanded soon after.

**dajarvi** · February 22, 2008, 09:29 PM

I use RTR as my foundational RTW setup. I use no other mods, but dinky around with the files. I treat RTR as the RTW (as though RTW doesn't exist). What I'm trying to figure out (as I eagerly await the full campaign of RTR 7) is how to disable the ability to hire mercenaries. I know its not historically accurate, but I'm just interested to see what the computer does if they can't pump their army with mercs. Its just an experiment while I wait.

**Quinn Inuit** · February 22, 2008, 09:59 PM

Just go to descr_mercenaries in the campaign map folder and reduce all the merc pools to one cheap and lousy unit each. That should suffice.

**AngryTitusPullo** · February 23, 2008, 03:16 AM

Just totally delete the whole entry should work too

**MasterOfThessus** · February 23, 2008, 08:40 AM

Mercs in VII= Totaly different, thanks to K

Edit: What a waste of my 1000t post

**Quinn Inuit** · February 23, 2008, 08:47 AM

I am intrigued. :hmmm:

**khshayathiya** · February 23, 2008, 10:51 AM

Not totally, no... We'll just add a different dimension to mercenary recruitment.

**Mythos_Ruler** · February 23, 2008, 12:22 PM

Don't tell me they will take turns to recruit... *sigh*

**khshayathiya** · February 23, 2008, 01:16 PM

I'm not feeling very comfortable giving many details now, since the idea is still in its infancy. It may not work or it may not work as intended.

So if the idea is bad, I'd rather keep it as the frustration of the team than make it the frustration of team and fans alike.