Independence?

[Darsh]

Do you think independence for a country is always a good thing?

[King Edward III]

For Britanny yes.

[removeduser_487563287433]

For Britanny yes.

Hahah, nice.

[King Edward III]

Hahah, nice.

[Darsh]

Do you mean the Scotish independence would be a good thing for Great Britain?

[King Edward III]

Do you mean the Scotish independence would be a good thing for Great Britain?

As long as we receive our rightful lands back in France, the Scots may have independence.

[wilpuri]

As long as we receive our rightful lands back in France, the Scots may have independence.

Brittany belongs to the Bretons, not the English.

[Каие]

Brittany belongs to the Bretons, not the English.

Britain DOES NOT EQUAL ENGLISH for ****s sake.

[King Edward III]

Brittany belongs to the Bretons, not the English.

France belongs to me.

[Darsh]

France belongs to me.

"L' Angleterre, cette colonie française qui a mal tourné".
Clemenceau

[Каие]

Do you mean the Scotish independence would be a good thing for Great Britain?

Scottish independence from who?

[King Edward III]

Scottish independence from who?

The Scottish.

[LoZz]

Darsh, expand on what you are asking, its too vague and as far as i see it, spam.

[Markas]

Depends on the aims of those who want it.

As Lozz said the question is too vague. Is a gun a good thing?

[Ó Cathasaigh]

If a group is willing to stand up and fight for their Independence, why not?

Independence is rarely gained peacefully these days it seems. If the Basques want to rise up and fight, let them. If the Chechens do, let them. If the Kurds do, let them.

[Каие]

The right to self determination must be preserved and if that means independence due to unequal rights, discrimination or inhumanity then so be it.

i.e. Kurds, Kosova, Palestine, Basques, Jews, Tibet (although the Basque situation has changed since)

[gaius valerius]

I'd say it would depend. Most important of all is the condition all groups within a country - including minorities - have the same rights. Independance can be good. But there are other ways. A federal or confederal solution for example. There are many variables, like language, religion, economics and history. The way these variables are in proportion depends what course of action can or cannot be taken.



The main problem is the irrationality of human behaviour. Yugoslavia for example could've been a much wealthier state if it had existed as a whole (as a federation or confederation perhaps). But with the history of the Balkans, to much trouble and no room for forgiveness... gives an explosive situation.

[Aziel]

The right to self determination must be preserved and if that means independence due to unequal rights, discrimination or inhumanity then so be it.

i.e. Kurds, Kosova, Palestine, Basques, Jews, Tibet (although the Basque situation has changed since)

The right to self determination is not a thing that is legislate on a stone, every case is a unique and should be debated as one. Not every people (group of persons) that decide they are a people (as the French or the Germans) have the right for self determination or for a state, it can creat an absurd situations of hundreds of imaginary peoples who want states for thamselvs.

For exemple, I don't think Kosovo has the right to exist by it's own, I think they should be annexed to Albenia. The PA should be annexed TO Jordan (70%+- Palestinians).

[Каие]

The right to self determination is not a thing that is legislate on a stone, every case is a unique and should be debated as one. Not every people (group of persons) that decide they are a people (as the French or the Germans) have the right for self determination or for a state, it can creat an absurd situations of hundreds of imaginary peoples who want states for thamselvs.

For exemple, I don't think Kosovo has the right to exist by it's own, I think they should be annexed to Albenia. The PA should be annexed TO Jordan (70%+- Palestinians).

No thats not what the right to self determination is. If the Palestinians are oppressed and want independence they should have it,although i agree with Kosovo perhaps it would be better if they just joined Albania. But since we go down that road why not annex Kuwait to Iraq?

[Aziel]

No thats not what the right to self determination is. If the Palestinians are oppressed and want independence they should have it,although i agree with Kosovo perhaps it would be better if they just joined Albania. But since we go down that road why not annex Kuwait to Iraq?

1). Most of the Palestinians are oppressed by there "brothers". The live in the PA are much better than the lives in Jordan, Syria and Egypt.

Despite the collapse of the PA economy from the last five years of war, Palestinian Arabs are still better off than many of their neighbors. The most recent Human Development Report from the United Nations ranks the PA 102nd in terms of life expectancy, educational attainment and adjusted real income out of the 177 countries and territories in the world, placing it in the “medium human development” category along with most of the other Middle Eastern states (only the Gulf sheikdoms are ranked “high”). The PA is ranked just 12 places below Jordan and one behind Iran; it is rated ahead of Syria (#105), Algeria (#108), Egypt (#120), and Morocco (#125).
Here's the source: http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/

2. West Palestine was meant to be an Jewish homeland and East Palestine was meant to be "Palestinian"/Arab homeland, so I don't see any problem that the Arab of the PA will becom part of the Palestinian state (AKA Jordan). I'm sure soon there will be a Palestinian coup against the Jordinian royalty.