Is islam from God?

**Mansa musa** · February 17, 2008, 10:53 AM

what i see too often is the words "islam is satanic" and "islam is from satan" or that the angel Gabriel was actually satan in disguise. what i don't understand from these people's points of view are why would Satan spread pure monotheism? too the dismay of everyone the bible says that islam is not from satan and here's why

"For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose predestined to occur." (Act. 4:27-28, NASB)

"So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. [verse 17 omitted] So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires." (Rom. 9:16-18, NASB)

We can see from these verses that God causes everything to happen. so he did in fact Cause islam to happen.it also means that he gave victory to the muslim armies.

Mark 12:29 "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord."

"They do blaspheme who say: 'Allah is Christ the son of Mary.' But said Christ: 'O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' Whoever joins other gods with Allah- Allah will forbid hi the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrongdoers be no one to help. (Quran, 5:72)"

I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24)

Jesus(sa) says he was only sent to israel. wich means what? christianity is just some deviated perverted sect of the religion of Abraham(as).

also here

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 10:5-6)

While Mohammad(saw) was sent to the entire world. mankind

We have not sent you (Muhammad) except as a mercy to mankind
(Al-Quran 21:107)

**roy34543** · February 17, 2008, 11:39 AM

The muslim religion was made for power and profit. at least if jesus came up to me he could actually say that he didnt do it so he could become extremely wealthy and become a ruler of very many people. Jesus just wanted people to be nice to each other and got nailed to a stick for it. Mohammad did it so he could become a ruler and enjoy having a vast amount of people at his command.
Now if it was due to divine intervention or not is one thing, but ill be damned if anyone considers that mohammads motive was to make sure every peson is prosperous and enjoys life.

**Zephrelial** · February 17, 2008, 11:43 AM

My stance towards this subject is simple and firm.There is no religion that ever came from God..And islam is no exception dear Mansa.

Maybe one day you will be enlightened and will come to understand that Quran was written by no other than the Prophet Muhammad himself.

**MasterAdnin** · February 18, 2008, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by roy34543

The muslim religion was made for power and profit. at least if jesus came up to me he could actually say that he didnt do it so he could become extremely wealthy and become a ruler of very many people. Jesus just wanted people to be nice to each other and got nailed to a stick for it. Mohammad did it so he could become a ruler and enjoy having a vast amount of people at his command.
Now if it was due to divine intervention or not is one thing, but ill be damned if anyone considers that mohammads motive was to make sure every peson is prosperous and enjoys life.

Yes because your definitely know Prophet Muhammad's(pbuh) motives 1400 years after he lived right? If you did know about you would also know that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was extremely generous and in Islam charity is mandatory.

Salaam,
Adnan

**Mansa musa** · February 17, 2008, 11:42 AM

you Know Mohammad lived a simple life and gave all his money away didn't you?

**Aziel** · March 01, 2008, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Mansa musa

you Know Mohammad lived a simple life and gave all his money away didn't you?

Sure...
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Islam is a man-made religion, pure and simple.

**tomcat ha** · March 01, 2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Azael33

Sure...
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Islam is a man-made religion, pure and simple.

Why is it man made then?

You can believe it to be man made but unless you have proof then you cant just make posts like this.

**Aziel** · March 02, 2008, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by tomcat ha

Why is it man made then?

You can believe it to be man made but unless you have proof then you cant just make posts like this.

Using my logic.

Doesn't 'Allah' mean 'God' anyway?

No, it's the LORD or Yehawa. God in general is Illah ("There is no Illah but Allah")

**Mansa musa** · February 17, 2008, 11:43 AM

no atheists allowed

Maybe one day you will be enlightened and will come to understand that Quran was written by no other than the Prophet Muhammad himself.

that's funny. the Qur'an was written quite a while after he died

**Zephrelial** · February 17, 2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mansa musa

no atheists allowed

I'm not an atheist if you were referring to me.If not sorry I misunderstood,my bad.

**Cúchulainn** · February 19, 2008, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mansa musa

no atheists allowed

Tough!!

You want a nice private discussion, then talk to the wall, it listens to all your points and it won't talk back.

(Then again you're not here, so my sarcastic and very funny comment has not bearing, ahh well)

Now, my point.

All religion is made by man.

**boofhead** · February 17, 2008, 11:45 AM

A tree is judged by its fruit. The fruit of Islam seems a little unripened to me.

**Mansa musa** · February 17, 2008, 11:48 AM

no agnostics or deists allowed

**Zephrelial** · February 17, 2008, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mansa musa

no agnostics or deists allowed

Well I am not a deist or agno.. Wait a minute.. Mansa are you allright?? Mansa??! Holy crap he got banned.. Does this necessarily mean that this thread is also dead? Or can we continue the discussion amongst ourselves?:hmmm:

**boofhead** · February 17, 2008, 11:51 AM

Mansa?

**~~Forum banned from tribunal~~** · February 17, 2008, 12:05 PM

i'll be back in no time

**boofhead** · February 17, 2008, 12:18 PM

Mansa, this thread is pointless without you. See you soon I hope.

*But why start a thread if you can't handle honest opinions from others, my friend? You may as well not have bothered.

**gaius valerius** · February 17, 2008, 12:49 PM

Isn't this thread pointless? Nobody can ever proof whether Jesus, Moses or Muhammad were prophets. Angels came to them, god spoke to them... There is simply no historical proof about it. They are all 3 (with Judaïsm) 'religions of the book'. To Jews Jesus is not the son of god and to the muslims he's a prophet.

Pointless why? There is no rational argument to disclaim either religion. Christians believe muslims are wrong and muslims believe christians are wrong.

Discussable? No.

Looking at it as rationally as possible: is islam from god? Well they claim it is, so they are right. If christians don't believe them then that is their believe. Who knows it wasn't satan speaking to Muhammad but a long lost Atlantean hold up in that cave after his isle got swallowed by the sea. Plain senseless to discus.

**tomcat ha** · February 18, 2008, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by gaius valerius

Isn't this thread pointless? Nobody can ever proof whether Jesus, Moses or Muhammad were prophets. Angels came to them, god spoke to them... There is simply no historical proof about it. They are all 3 (with Judaïsm) 'religions of the book'. To Jews Jesus is not the son of god and to the muslims he's a prophet.

Pointless why? There is no rational argument to disclaim either religion. Christians believe muslims are wrong and muslims believe christians are wrong.

Discussable? No.

Looking at it as rationally as possible: is islam from god? Well they claim it is, so they are right. If christians don't believe them then that is their believe. Who knows it wasn't satan speaking to Muhammad but a long lost Atlantean hold up in that cave after his isle got swallowed by the sea. Plain senseless to discus.

/end thread

as a muslim i agree. You can only say about a religion this and this makes it potentially true.