Hoplites

[GookandBap]

I love the Hoplite skins for this mod, but the only thing I'm really against is the overhand motion for hoplite skins. I really like the Athens underhand and the Rhodian, but I really dislike the spartan overhand fighting motion. To me it looks ridiculous, and I was just wondering if there is a way to change it so they fight like how the Athens model does.

This is me just be nitpicky, but its just my opinion. Other then that mod is great, its just I prefer underhand, even though it might not be 100 percent historically accurate.

[tone]

yeah just copy the settings for athenian hoplites that are in the DMB file (descr_model_battle.txt) to the spartan or whatever entry there. We chose to use that thought because on balance it seems historical to have both

[GookandBap]

can you give me clear directions no how to, I'm kinda new to modding units. I know how to mod stats, thats about it.

[GookandBap]

nvm I got it to work,thanks, now this is the best mod i've played.

[snuggans]

nvm I got it to work,thanks, now this is the best mod i've played.

lol

[Spartas Julius]

can you tell me specific instructions on the same I am stuck

[Nordmann]

I think overhand looks fine to be honest, personally I much prefer it to underhand. But that's my opinion. Both methods are known to have been used, and it most likely depended on both the battlefield situation and the formation used.

[Spartas Julius]

... yeha aI agree but I still cant get how to do it, can anyone give me the instructions or direct me where to find em

[Matse]

I like the way it is now. There are some city hoplites that use underhand (Bosporan, Athenian, Rhodesian, etc.) and some that use overhand (most of the others) so I can choose how I want them and also have some variety.

[Kubelwagen]

Will RS2 keep the city hoplites or even add some? That would be really cool.

[aja5191]

They will definitely stay, but we don't know quite yet about adding in any more.

We'll check out how many sports, etc. we have left to work with after all the faction's units, and then we'll see how many more units we can add. Some of them might be the City Hoplites, but I doubt it.

[swhunter]

They will definitely stay, but we don't know quite yet about adding in any more.

We'll check out how many sports, etc. we have left to work with after all the faction's units, and then we'll see how many more units we can add. Some of them might be the City Hoplites, but I doubt it.

I thought we are reskinng the city hoplites to historical standards?
Scraping the Corinth helm/heavy armour breast look.

[Kubelwagen]

Ok, thanks for the answer. Long live RS no matter what you decide!

[Spartas Julius]

can anyone tell me the exact way or, what to copy in (descr_model_battle.txt), to enable underhanded spearmen.

[Brusilov]

can anyone tell me the exact way or, what to copy in (descr_model_battle.txt), to enable underhanded spearmen.

All you have to do is compare the ones that tone suggested http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...03&postcount=2). Copy the Athenian Hoplite bits into the Spartan one.

Having looked at the code it appears as if it may be the 'skeleton' entry - Spartans have fs_s1_hoplite where Athenians have fs_s1_hoplite and fs_s1_slow_swordsman. I'd suggest removing 'fs_s1_slow_swordsman'.

The only other thing that appears different is the 'model_tri' entry where there is an 'f' in the last parameter.

type                greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos
skeleton            fs_s1_hoplite
indiv_range            40
texture            greek_cities,     data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            britons,     data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            slave,         data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            numidia,     data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            thrace,     data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            macedon,     data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            romans_julii,   data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
texture            romans_scipii,  data/models_unit/textures/rob/sor_spartans.tga
model_flexi_m            data/models_unit/sor_spartans.cas, 15
model_flexi_m            data/models_unit/sor_spartans.cas, 30
model_flexi_m            data/models_unit/sor_spartans.cas, 40
model_flexi            data/models_unit/sor_spartans.cas, max
model_sprite        greek_cities,     60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        britons,     60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        slave,         60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        numidia,     60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        thrace,     60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        macedon,     60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        romans_julii,   60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_sprite        romans_scipii,  60.0, data/sprites/rs/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos_sprite.spr
model_tri            400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5


type                athenian_hoplite
skeleton            fs_semi_fast_spearman, fs_s1_slow_swordsman                            
indiv_range            40
texture            merc,         data/models_unit/textures/tone/cityhop/athenian_hoplite.tga
model_flexi            data/models_unit/SoR_Athenian_Hoplite.cas, 15
model_flexi            data/models_unit/SoR_Athenian_Hoplite.cas, 30
model_flexi            data/models_unit/SoR_Athenian_Hoplite.cas, 40
model_flexi            data/models_unit/SoR_Athenian_Hoplite.cas, max
model_sprite        60.0, data/sprites/rs/athenian_hoplite_sprite.spr
model_tri            400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

I'd suggest making a single change at a time to see what the effect is. Also take a copy of the DMB file before you make any changes.

[Spartas Julius]

Thank you I was playing with the skeleton to begin with, but I will try doing one thing at the time then, I'll see how it goes , and I'll tell how it all played out.

Thanks

[Ephialtes The Dog]

Is the thread in XGM still relevant?

[Spartas Julius]

The thing is, with xgm and RS is different skeletons, so I just coulnd't make it out, I got so confused, but now I finally got it for both for the underhand thingie Thanks alot peeps