Gaza - The Killing Zone

[Osceola]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU

Thought it was interesting.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

@6:43 "We're being shot at by Israelis from a watch tower"

What bull ****, they weren't shooting at you. I am not saying Israel doesn't have skeletons in their closet, but this is far from unbiased journalism.

[roy34543]

You can find ten million of these type of movies. They dont mean anything. They are basically trying to get a point across, not report anything.

[PointOfViewGun]

Well some of those exaggerated incidents happened with National Geographic reporters and you can watch it from time to time on the channel.

[danzig]

See that had to ruin a real story (the begining) with the propaganda nonsense in the second half which unfortunately will ruin the credibility or inflame (depending on ones political point of view) hatred in the eyes of those who dont look closely at this stuff.

What bull ****, they weren't shooting at you. I am not saying Israel doesn't have skeletons in their closet, but this is far from unbiased journalism.

That's always the case it seems, the truth is bad enough but yet for some it isnt sinister enough because it doesnt make one side out to be the Lex Luthor meets Joker meets Dr Doom badguy.

[Каие]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oqlRBnLAn-g&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jhvE1YkbdPU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBIcdoOKB9c

[danzig]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oqlRBnLAn-g&feature=related

I liked how the Youtube tag is Killed Jesus.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jhvE1YkbdPU

Not much there other then interviews which naturally you are only gonna see specific ones...mind you that would be the case if it was a pro Israeli one too.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBIcdoOKB9c

Stupid kids guess stone throwing is universal among jew and muslim kids though it doesnt appear like they actually hit anyone whoever was filming it seemed more interested in filming then in pain from being hit. So are we going to post a list of every youtube video pro israeli or pro palestians in some sort of electronic dick waving contest?

[Erik]

I liked how the Youtube tag is Killed Jesus.

The Jewish boy did say "We killed Jesus and we're proud of it".
Which made my LOL.

About the settlers:
I think there must be a few screws loose in your head to even want to live in a Jewish settlement inside Palestinian territory where most people hate you, especially considering that most of them could have lived a pretty sweet and rich life in the West where people generally like Jews.

So settlers are, of course, not representative of the general Jewish, or even the general Israeli population.
But I don't see any reason to think the rest of the settlers are any better than the ones shown in the video's, although most are smart enough not to express their true feelings of hate and racism to the media.

Just one question: why do assumably sane people in the rest of Israel and in America still support these nutters?

[danzig]

The Jewish boy did say "We killed Jesus and we're proud of it".
Which made my LOL.

Yeah as idiotic as he was I have to admit it was funny

About the settlers:
I think there must be a few screws loose in your head to even want to live in a Jewish settlement inside Palestinian territory where most people hate you, especially considering that most of them could have lived a pretty sweet and rich life in the West where people generally like Jews.

That is the one thing Ill never understand from the Jewish side of things how they can choose to live there knowing a) its dangerous b) they shouldnt BE there, they arent stupid they know what their presences means. Is it REALLY worth it given the cost to both Jew and Muslim? It just seems so stupid.

Just one question: why do assumably sane people in the rest of Israel and in America still support these nutters?

I think it comes down to those nutters are safer ones (in theory) then the other side's nutters. Personally Id rather see the nutcases on both sides dropped on an island somewhere together and wave goodbye to them.

[Каие]

I liked how the Youtube tag is Killed Jesus.
Not much there other then interviews which naturally you are only gonna see specific ones...mind you that would be the case if it was a pro Israeli one too.
Stupid kids guess stone throwing is universal among jew and muslim kids though it doesnt appear like they actually hit anyone whoever was filming it seemed more interested in filming then in pain from being hit. So are we going to post a list of every youtube video pro israeli or pro palestians in some sort of electronic dick waving contest?

Even Jewish people can be drunk and belligerent? I did not expect this out of Jews.
Okay, I bet I can also find videos of Palestinians beating up westerners/Israelis.
He did not get stoned, as the video states. He did not get killed with rocks, nor did he smoke hashish. These are kids, and it seems to me (and apparently to danzig to me) that rock throwing is part of the fun of living in the Middle East.

Someone said they were exaggerated and isolated and i just did a quick search in Youtube and voila...

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Someone said they were exaggerated and isolated and i just did a quick search in Youtube and voila...

Who did?

[Каие]

Who did?

Well some of those exaggerated incidents happened

the jews should exterminate all life in the gaza strip-- it would solve many problems.

I hope you're not serious

[Lawrence of Arabia]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oqlRBnLAn-g&feature=related

Even Jewish people can be drunk and belligerent? I did not expect this out of Jews.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jhvE1YkbdPU

Okay, I bet I can also find videos of Palestinians beating up westerners/Israelis.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBIcdoOKB9c

He did not get stoned, as the video states. He did not get killed with rocks, nor did he smoke hashish. These are kids, and it seems to me (and apparently to danzig to me) that rock throwing is part of the fun of living in the Middle East.

[Chaigidel]

the jews should exterminate all life in the gaza strip-- it would solve many problems.

[Chaigidel]

I am completely serious-- what does Gaza offer the world? nothing
then we should offer it what it offers, which is death and nothingness, they destroy whatever they are given; and spit in the face of peace.

they should have peace forced on them through the death of every human being in the gaza strip.

it is stupid, in fact its crazy, but guess what; this is the way of the world and if those people are not exterminated they will only provide more problems for all the world in the future, better to take a hit to your conscience now and kill them all.

[Каие]

I am completely serious-- what does Gaza offer the world? nothing
then we should offer it what it offers, which is death and nothingness, they destroy whatever they are given; and spit in the face of peace.

they should have peace forced on them through the death of every human being in the gaza strip.

it is stupid, in fact its crazy, but guess what; this is the way of the world and if those people are not exterminated they will only provide more problems for all the world in the future, better to take a hit to your conscience now and kill them all.

Genocide....lol and everyone gangs up on me for posting videos....

[Icefrisco]

About the settlers:
I think there must be a few screws loose in your head to even want to live in a Jewish settlement inside Palestinian territory where most people hate you, especially considering that most of them could have lived a pretty sweet and rich life in the West where people generally like Jews.

So settlers are, of course, not representative of the general Jewish, or even the general Israeli population.
But I don't see any reason to think the rest of the settlers are any better than the ones shown in the video's, although most are smart enough not to express their true feelings of hate and racism to the media.

Just one question: why do assumably sane people in the rest of Israel and in America still support these nutters?

Not all settlers are nuts(though the one settler I met is). The most vocal settlers are nuts while many or possibly most of the settlers are poor or not so well off Israelis who move into occupied territories due to government provided benefits.

[Chaigidel]

again-- perhaps you dont understand what genocide is

everyone in gaza is not the whole of the palestinian people, they are not a unique genetic group-- they could be exterminated, without it being genocide, it would just be a shameful mass killing, which would help the world in the end.

[Каие]

any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

So you want to reconsider that?

[Chaigidel]

but they arent human-- so genocide is again not possible.

they have shown themselves to be unworthy of life, little more than craven dogs devouring thier own children.