Are ladders destructible or is possible to "push" them down from walls?

[Rubini]

Excuse me if this was already asked....

Are enemy ladders destructible or at least is possible to push them down from your walls?:hmmm:

Thanks in any advice!

[eggthief]

Can´t be pushed down, but can be destroyed by artillery while they arent lifted up against a wall.

[Rubini]

Can´t be pushed down, but can be destroyed by artillery while they arent lifted up against a wall.

So, is not possible to destroy them after them reach your walls? By the way, this also applies to siege towers (only destructible before reach your walls)?:hmmm:

[Sacc]

or at least is possible to push them down from your walls?

You'd think so, right?

[Rubini]

You'd think so, right?

Yes, would be funny and very tactical if this could be done in battle...

[Tambarskjelve]

Actually, you can destroy siege equipment, but not from the walls, you must be on the ground, and they take forever to destroy, even the ladders.

[eggthief]

Siege towers can always be destroyed and your opponet might have to use his ladder(s) a second time in case u have multiple walls, which gives u a new opportunity to destroy them, though it is hard to hit the ladders and u can only destroy one ladder with a single shot.

[Valbruch]

your opponet might have to use his ladder(s) a second time

It is possible to reuse ladders once they are at the walls ? I've never noticed it...

Anyway, Tambarskjelve is right, it is possible to destroy siege equipment from outside of the walls, but the time needed for it is so long that is is almost impossible to do in battle.:hmmm:

[Rubini]

Siege towers can always be destroyed and your opponet might have to use his ladder(s) a second time in case u have multiple walls, which gives u a new opportunity to destroy them, though it is hard to hit the ladders and u can only destroy one ladder with a single shot.

I can be wrong, but I recall some situations where a siege tower (after reach the walls and the soldiers start to fight) was not more destroyed by my longbow archers (with fire)...I tried all their flame arrows and nothing. The same situation, but when the siege tower was not yet reached the walls already ends in the siege towers in flames.:hmmm:

[eggthief]

I can be wrong, but I recall some situations where a siege tower (after reach the walls and the soldiers start to fight) was not more destroyed by my longbow archers (with fire)...I tried all their flame arrows and nothing. The same situation, but when the siege tower was not yet reached the walls already ends in the siege towers in flames.:hmmm:

It is possible, but like Valbruch said, it will take a lot and I really mean a lot of arrows to actually make them burn.

[eggthief]

Yeah it is, but I think that u would only need it at citadels, maybe at a fortress as well.

[Valbruch]

Well, I guess there is no need for me to build twice as many ladders than needed now. I probably never tried to take the old ones and use them again.

btw., Fortress has double walls and Citadels triple.

[Redleg]

If you can get a group of foot soldiers outside the wall they can take the ladder down, however one or two maybe killed in the process as it just falls to the ground.

[Rubini]

If you can get a group of foot soldiers outside the wall they can take the ladder down, however one or two maybe killed in the process as it just falls to the ground.

I will try it ASAP and will post my results soon.

[Notimeforaname]

Ballista towers and cannon towers can hit ladders while troops are scaling them. Only one ladder is destroyed at a time, but everyone on that particular ladder was killed.

[Kietharr]

You can take enemy ladders down when they're at the wall by sallying out, not usually a good tactic but it's led to a few funny situations. In an online game I blew up a guy's siege towers and he had an all infantry army against a normal castle so no ram, he got ladders on the wall and I shot a mortar at the top of the wall to rout them back off of the wall (i had no troops on that wall, all of them died to the enemy) and then with a volley of musket fire I routed most of his army, he went back to regroup them and stop them from routing. I sallied out with my few remaining heavy infantry, grabbed all of his ladders and ran back inside just before he started heading back towards me. Needless to say, he was surprised that his ladders were gone, and he was forced to quit.

[Rubini]

You can take enemy ladders down when they're at the wall by sallying out, not usually a good tactic but it's led to a few funny situations. In an online game I blew up a guy's siege towers and he had an all infantry army against a normal castle so no ram, he got ladders on the wall and I shot a mortar at the top of the wall to rout them back off of the wall (i had no troops on that wall, all of them died to the enemy) and then with a volley of musket fire I routed most of his army, he went back to regroup them and stop them from routing. I sallied out with my few remaining heavy infantry, grabbed all of his ladders and ran back inside just before he started heading back towards me. Needless to say, he was surprised that his ladders were gone, and he was forced to quit.

LOL!
very good I will try this too.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

You can take enemy ladders down when they're at the wall by sallying out, not usually a good tactic but it's led to a few funny situations. In an online game I blew up a guy's siege towers and he had an all infantry army against a normal castle so no ram, he got ladders on the wall and I shot a mortar at the top of the wall to rout them back off of the wall (i had no troops on that wall, all of them died to the enemy) and then with a volley of musket fire I routed most of his army, he went back to regroup them and stop them from routing. I sallied out with my few remaining heavy infantry, grabbed all of his ladders and ran back inside just before he started heading back towards me. Needless to say, he was surprised that his ladders were gone, and he was forced to quit.

Id did once in Kingdoms. Visby was besieged by the Danes. They had two stacks against my very small Teutonic garrison. When they attacked I niticed that their smallest stack had build the siege equipment, so I sallied and captured their siege equipment. Once the siege equipment was mine the battle ended and I had won a heroic battle . It was my most stupid way to get a heroic victory.

[Valbruch]

I can be wrong, but I recall some situations where a siege tower (after reach the walls and the soldiers start to fight) was not more destroyed by my longbow archers (with fire)...I tried all their flame arrows and nothing. The same situation, but when the siege tower was not yet reached the walls already ends in the siege towers in flames

From what I have seen, flaming arrows in M2 are quite impotent against rams and towers. Usually I am only able to burn down siege equipment if my walls are upgraded and shooting those flaming ballista bolts. :hmmm:
And I recall boiling oil setting ram on fire once.

[Rubini]

From what I have seen, flaming arrows in M2 are quite impotent against rams and towers. Usually I am only able to burn down siege equipment if my walls are upgraded and shooting those flaming ballista bolts. :hmmm:
And I recall boiling oil setting ram on fire once.

It is possible, but like Valbruch said, it will take a lot and I really mean a lot of arrows to actually make them burn.

So, perhaps could be a good addition to playability to tweak a bit the flamability of siege equipament and/or the flame potential from arrows without unbalance the game. Someone knows where to look at? :hmmm: