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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    A kid that young isn't even sexually active, how could he think he's a girl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    So the boy dresses up like a girl and wants to be referred to as such. Big whoop.
    We should be concentrating on more pertinent things in schools, like bullying issues and poor funding. Not semantics over what a kid wants to call himself.

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    A kid that young isn't even sexually active, how could he think he's a girl?
    Development of gender roles and gender identification, and sexuality to a lesser extent, last all throughout one's life, from birth to death, not just post-puberty.

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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    Wait, so why a boy becomes a girl???

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    Parents should never be allowed to let such a procedure take place on their child. Anybody that wishes to have a sex change or feels out of place in their gender should have to at least wait until they are 18 so that it can be assured that the person is not just going through a phase, but truly is, essentially, a female trapped in a male body or vice versa. The fact that the parents allowed this happen constitutes child abuse in my eyes.

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    I saw a PBS special on this. (yeah i know...) Anyway, it was about people that were born one gender that are chamically wired to to think they are the opposite sex. In other words, they have the mind of one sex and the body of another.

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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    Bull. You've got a Y chromosome, you're a guy. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Bull. You've got a Y chromosome, you're a guy. That's it.
    They're a genotypic male. Leaving it at that is simplifying it to a immense degree. Gender identity is incredibly complex and is not particularly well understood, but may be due, for example, to maternal hormonal levels during gestation. Not to mention there are a number of receptor/enzymatic deficiencies (e.g. androgen insensitivity, 5-alpha reductase deficiency) in which a genotypic male may have female sexual characteristics but still retain a male gender identity (or not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Bull. You've got a Y chromosome, you're a guy. That's it.
    It's rather more complicated than that I believe. To the Athenaeum! Except I can't be bothered =(

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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    Geez when I was 3-4 years old I wasn't also pretty much sure whether I was a boy or a girl,because stupid other kids asked me around all the time:

    Are you a boy or a girl? due to my hair being a bit long,and because I was a pretty boy.Also I recall thinking having to put up with pregnancy and was worrying about how to cope it in the future when I grow up.. Then my mother explained to me that men don't get pregnant only women do,and I was relieved

    So speaking in the light of this I believe these kind of wrong assumptions indeed happen.The parents should teach the poor boy what he really is.There is probably a communication problem between them and the kid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephrelial View Post
    Geez when I was 3-4 years old I wasn't also pretty much sure whether I was a boy or a girl,because stupid other kids asked me around all the time:

    Are you a boy or a girl? due to my hair being a bit long,and because I was a pretty boy.Also I recall thinking having to put up with pregnancy and was worrying about how to cope it in the future when I grow up.. Then my mother explained to me that men don't get pregnant only women do,and I was relieved

    So speaking in the light of this I believe these kind of wrong assumptions indeed happen.The parents should teach the poor boy what he really is.There is probably a communication problem between them and the kid
    I completely agree.

    I have no problem with transgenderism, If that's how someone feels then fine. But at this stage in a kids life things are all pretty confused and there's a lot of weird ideas kids can get from snippets of info they've been told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Bull. You've got a Y chromosome, you're a guy. That's it.
    not bull. truth.

    that said, this boy/girl seems a bit young to be making such a life-impacting decision.
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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    so wat happens if he wants to change his mind when he's 13 and sees a pic of, say megan gale?
    and does that mean his/her first g/f is gay?

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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    Well, we sure as hell didn't have so many "gender identity" problems back then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Well, we sure as hell didn't have so many "gender identity" problems back then...
    That sounds like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad saying that there are no homosexuals in Iran. It's not that they didn't exist, they were just repressed and persecuted. One consequence of our overpopulation is that 'minorities' are now in the millions and can successfully draw their strength from numbers. So more attempts for tolerance and more people in the mainstream know of these once downplayed problems.

    However, in this case, I must agree that 8 is too young an age to have any sort of sex change. How much ever I hate ageism like Maximillian, simple odds dictate that the kid doesn't have the experience to make this sort of decision. It is true that some 8 year olds are more intelligent than a 40 year old, its just highly unlikely.

    Most important though, is the fact that this is not a news report but rather an editorial. This article is just teeming with bias and I can help but wonder how much information is being withheld. This essay is titled "Brave New School", an allegory to the novel Brave New World. In addition, have a look at other 'news' offerings from this site:
    Just thought I should point that out.
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    Default Re: 8 year old boy returns to class as a girl.

    i'm sorry but at 8 yrs old!!!
    smacks more of parental influence more than it coming from himself.
    some boys play dress up at 8, etc but they dont all turn out cross dressing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    so wat happens if he wants to change his mind when he's 13 and sees a pic of, say megan gale?
    and does that mean his/her first g/f is gay?
    Gay and straight don't matter. It's the emotional attraction that makes love what it is.

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    i'm sorry but at 8 yrs old!!!
    smacks more of parental influence more than it coming from himself.
    You vastly underestimate, then, the capability for children to think for themselves. When I was eight, I could think damn well on my own, and come up with my own interpretations of reality. In saying that his age bars his cognition, you are being bluntly ageist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximiIian View Post
    Gay and straight don't matter. It's the emotional attraction that makes love what it is.
    not all love is sexual, maximilian. i've enjoyed romantic friendships with female friends b4 (much to the chagrin of my g/f) and platonic fraternal love with my mates, not to mention a filial love for my parents and family. All governed my emotional, spiritual, and intellectual attraction.


    You vastly underestimate, then, the capability for children to think for themselves. When I was eight, I could think damn well on my own, and come up with my own interpretations of reality. In saying that his age bars his cognition, you are being bluntly ageist
    yes, and when i was 8 i wanted to be a lawyer (thank god, i didnt) and at 11 i wanted to be a space marine for the Adeptus Astartes. i thought life was so much simpler, and thus planned things simpler back then than it is today.
    i even remember discussing with a friend at 13 over the prospects of getting a sex change-we were both curious about what it'd be like to be a girl, not beuz we felt like girls inside.
    THe thing is, these are all transitory phases in the kid's life.
    i'll betcha he'll change his mind come a yr or two.

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    Yes, it's the parents fault. No doubt mollie-coddlers and spoilers, who bow before their child like sycophants.

    Equally ridiculous that a school feels obliged to take such measures to accommodate the child.

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    Jesus that is one boy/girl who is going to be bullied to the enth degree.

    Thanatos right this second if some guy captured you and transformed you into a girl, would you be okay with it?, I am going to assume you would not, since you're mind would stay the same. It is very much the same issue with kids even if they where instead born in that body to begin with.

    Of course we can all agree that at 8 years old it simply is not reliable to let a surgeon start chopping off his goods quite yet.

    and Zeph that may be the case but who knows.

    Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.

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