Prophet mohammad(pbuh) in zoroastrian scriptures

[Mansa musa]

Qur'an 35:24
Verily We have sent thee (Muhammad) in truth as a bearer of glad tidings and as a warner:
And there never was a people without a warner having lived among them (in the past).

Qur'an 16:36
For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle (with the Command) "Serve Allah and eshew Evil":
Of the people were some whom Allah guided and some on whom Error became inevitably (established).
So travel through the earth and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

The Epistle of Sasan I in Dasatir contains the prophecy about Prophet Muhammad. Sasan I was a reformer of the Zoroastrian religion. It is believed that this Epistle is a part of the teachings of Prophet Zoroaster, to which Sasan I added his explanatory notes. Some scholars have suggested that the word ‘Dasatir’ means ten (das) parts (tir) while others contend that this word is derived from Dasatur, meaning religious law. The Zoroastrians are also known as ‘Magians’ and ‘Fire Worshipers.’
The Epistle of Sasan I describes future events at a time when Zoroastrians will have forsaken their religious practices. The English translation of the Epistle of Sasan I is presented below.

“When the Persians will do such deeds, a man from among the Arabs will be born whose followers shall overthrow and dissolve the kingdom and religion of the Persians.
And the arrogant people (Persians) will be subjugated.
Instead of the temple of fire and the house of idols they will see the House of Abraham without any idols as their Qibla.
“And they (Muslims) will be a mercy to the worlds.
And they will capture the places of temples of fire, Madain (Ctesiphon), nearby lands, Tus and Balkh, and other eminent and sacred places (of Zoroastrians).
And their leader (Prophet Muhammad) will be an eloquent man whose words and message will be clear and far-reaching.”

The word by word translation of the Epistle of Sasan I is given below. The text of this Epistle is taken from Dasatir published by Mulla Pheroze during the reign of Shah Nasiruddeen Kachar of Persia. Mulla Pheroze lived in Bombay (India) and he was an eminent scholar of Pahlavi, Zend, Persian, and Arabic languages. He consulted with several famous Zoroastrians priests to authenticate his translation. The original text is in Pahlavi.

There are many prophecies in Dasatir and in Zend Avesta, the other sacred book of the Zoroastrians. The word ‘Astvat-ereta’ in the prophecies means ‘the praised one’ which is Muhammad in Arabic. Some prophecies are found in Farvardin Yasht XIII:17 and XXVIII:129, Zamyad Yasht: 95, and Atash Nyayish: 9.
More from Dasatir in the Original Text

[Mansa musa]

i'd like to note that answering islam's claim that the document has been forged by sufis has been completely refuted and they've been exposed as liars

[Dayman]

That's physically impossible since Zoroastrianism predates Islam by a very large margin.

[Mansa musa]

That's physically impossible since Zoroastrianism predates Islam by a very large margin.

Qur'an 16:36
For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle (with the Command) "Serve Allah and eshew Evil":
Of the people were some whom Allah guided and some on whom Error became inevitably (established).
So travel through the earth and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

just look up the attributes and charicteristics of ahura mazda. zoroastrians are also people of the book according to the Qur'an.

[Dayman]

Qur'an 16:36
For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle (with the Command) "Serve Allah and eshew Evil":
Of the people were some whom Allah guided and some on whom Error became inevitably (established).
So travel through the earth and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

just look up the attributes and charicteristics of ahura mazda. zoroastrians are also people of the book according to the Qur'an.

Yes, they say that, but it doesn't make it true. Islam is only 1400 years old as opposed to Zoroastrianism which is at least 2500 years old.

I've said this before and that I can make up counter examples.

[Mansa musa]

Yes, they say that, but it doesn't make it true.

I've said this before and that I can make up counter examples.

Although the principle of a creator divinity was not new to the two Indo-Iranian cultures, Zoroaster gives Ahura Mazda an entirely new dimension by characterizing the Creator as the one uncreated God (Yasna 30.3, 45.2). "No satisfactory evidence has yet been adduced to show that, before Zoroaster, the concept of a supreme god existed among the Iranians."

Central to Zoroaster's perception of Ahura Mazda is the concept of asha, literally "truth", and in the extended sense, the equitable law of the universe, which governed the life of Zoroaster's people, the nomadic herdsmen of the Central Asian steppes.[14] For these, asha was the course of everything observable, the motion of the planets and astral bodies, the progression of the seasons, the pattern of daily nomadic herdsman life, governed by regular metronomic events such as sunrise and sunset. All physical creation (geti) was thus a product of - and ran according to - a master plan, inherent to Ahura Mazda, and violations of the order (druj) were violations against creation, and thus violations against Ahura Mazda.

1. There is one universal and transcendental God, Ahura Mazda, the one uncreated creator and to whom all worship is ultimately directed.
2. Ahura Mazda's creation — evident as asha, truth and order — is the antithesis of chaos, evident as druj, falsehood and disorder. The resulting conflict involves the entire universe, including humanity, which has an active role to play in the conflict.
3. Active participation in life through good thoughts, good words and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep the chaos at bay. This active participation is a central element in Zoroaster's concept of free will, and Zoroastrianism rejects all forms of monasticism.

is it just me or does Ahura mazda sound alot like Allah?

[Dayman]

is it just me or does Ahura mazda sound alot like Allah?

It sounds like ever damn Father God. Zoroastrianism most likely helped influence many belief systems.

[Ummagumma]

The connection is as tenuous as any other 'prophecy' of any other culture, sorry.

Side note: I heard you had become a militant? Forums are safer, I suppose!

[Dayman]

The connection is as tenuous as any other 'prophecy' of any other culture, sorry.

Postdiction is easy. Incredibly easy.

[Mansa musa]

The connection is as tenuous as any other 'prophecy' of any other culture, sorry.

Side note: I heard you had become a militant? Forums are safer, I suppose!

i don't know man. arabs house of abraham the persians will be conquered by the arabs. qibla. destroying the idols in the house of abraham.

what else could they be talking about?

[kev-o]

Is it me or does Zeus, Thor, Sol Invictus, Mithras, and a whole host of other gods sound like Allah?

[Mansa musa]

Is it me or does Zeus, Thor, Sol Invictus, Mithras, and a whole host of other gods sound like Allah?

it's just you

[kev-o]

it's just you

I'm sure it is.

[Mansa musa]

I'm sure it is.

zeus is a pagan statue of a man that holds limited power

[kev-o]

Mansa, I think that I speak for Boeing and myself when we say its ok to believe in what you want to believe in. That's what makes everyone different from each other. But please, you have to realize that some (if not all) of your rhetoric is inherent BS. Muhammad was not in Zoroastrian scriptures. You are talking about a character in Zoroastianism that came before Muhammad by thousands of years. Muhammad isn't even in the Bible despite muslim claims that he is the Holy Spirit, an entirly false interpretation which is meant to claim legitimacy of Muhammed for Christians. I don't know where you find such rhetoric, but it is all unsound. You need to read up more on different perspectives and see all the sides of the story before you post such inherent nonsense.

[Ummagumma]

You need to read up more on different perspectives and see all the sides of the story before you post such inherent nonsense.

Where's the fun in that?

[kev-o]

Where's the fun in that?

As amusing as Mansa's posts are, I have somewhat pity for him.

there's a person mentioned that's going to be called "the prophet" and also some dead sea scrolls await 2 messiahs one that's obviously jesus(pbuh) and one that's described as a "mighty warrior of god"

Many Christians do not take legitamacy of the Dead Sea scrolls since most if not all are from a Christian Sect known as gnostics, who regarded as heretics.

but he IS in the bible kev-o.

Source. And it has to be the Bible NOT the Koran.

[Mansa musa]

As amusing as Mansa's posts are, I have somewhat pity for him.



Many Christians do not take legitamacy of the Dead Sea scrolls since most if not all are from a Christian Sect known as gnostics, who regarded as heretics.



Source. And it has to be the Bible NOT the Koran.

the people asked 3 things about john. is he elija is he jesus or is he the prophet. who do you suppose the prophet is kev-o?

[Heinz Guderian]

I missed you mansa. welcome back.

[Mansa musa]

Mansa, I think that I speak for Boeing and myself when we say its ok to believe in what you want to believe in. That's what makes everyone different from each other. But please, you have to realize that some (if not all) of your rhetoric is inherent BS. Muhammad was not in Zoroastrian scriptures. You are talking about a character in Zoroastianism that came before Muhammad by thousands of years. Muhammad isn't even in the Bible despite muslim claims that he is the Holy Spirit, an entirly false interpretation which is meant to claim legitimacy of Muhammed for Christians. I don't know where you find such rhetoric, but it is all unsound. You need to read up more on different perspectives and see all the sides of the story before you post such inherent nonsense.

but he IS in the bible kev-o. there's a person mentioned that's going to be called "the prophet" and also some dead sea scrolls await 2 messiahs one that's obviously jesus(pbuh) and one that's described as a "mighty warrior of god"