Makedonian Pikemen Reform

[Bristan]

can anyone tell me what is needed for the Makedonians to get the mail armored pikemen reform please.

Thank you in advance

[Admetos]

Vanilla Marians.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

A 'huge' city in Arretium, Ariminum, Arpi, or Capua will trigger the vanilla marian reforms and give all of the reform units in EB that don't have a specific reform (including late general bodyguards).

[Bristan]

what is the min date that the vanilla Marain reforms will happen?

[Admetos]

There isn't one.

[eggthief]

there is none, I speeded the whole process up in my pahlava campaign by using process_cq "Capua"

[Bristan]

Ok here is my deal, I started the Makedonia campaign some months ago (the last save was Nov 3rd) I went back to it a few days ago, and i wanted to see the reforms so I decided to cheat on a separate save to see when i could expect the reforms. I have been using the add population and process cq cheats. I have huge cities in Italy from Rome to Rhegion, but have not received the vanilla Marian reforms.

It should be noted that after I made Rome a client kingdom it told me that I had declared a cease fire with Epiros and KH both of which i had destroyed.

I have just yesterday Installed Mini_Me_From the Org.'s 1.1 mod (but i believe there should have been the reforms before I installed the mod)

[Arutima]

i have a mak game, but the romans are too lazy getting a city over 24k population, and we are around 225bc. Frigging roman s need to be crushed so that i can make imperial cities in italy, myself >_>

[eggthief]

I'm pretty sure that I got em in a non cheated game with macedonia, but by that time I had over 2 million mnai and so I had no reason to recruit them, because they are inferior to to the hellenic elite phalanx.