Jihad???

[Lupu]

Is this upposed to happen? Isnt it made impossible to lauch jihad in BC?
Now I think the mongols are not going to kill khwarez, with the wrath of all muslims upon them...

[IMG]http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4559/jihad3au7.jpg[/IMG





And while I looked at jihad armies I noticed this:

Looks like sultan saladin has been reborn, now leading the ayyubid jihad on mongols.

[Pyrebound]

Well, in BC imams can call Jihads and afaik it is intended. Recruiting imams is already quite tough and due to very low conversion rates it is little tough to get enough piety.

BTW: Why do you have only one settlement and so much money? o_O

[Tariq]

Imam with enough piety can call for Jihad.So you can still do it.I did it once.

I believe that BC team only upped Imam recruitment requirements and (maybe ) piety required to call Jihad.

[Miraj]

I don't believe we ever said Jihads are impossible in BC. Its strange the things and intentions people attribute to the team.

[Sher Khan]

Wow. Merv is gonna take a beating.

[Miraj]

I think I'll bump up the piety required for jihads right to max.

[Tariq]

I think I'll bump up the piety required for jihads right to max.

Just fyi, Jihad against Mongols didn't work in my game, they pretty much destroyed everything that came their way.

And my Imam had maxed piety(i didn't call Jihad) by then, so it wouldn't make to much of difference.

On the other side, that is exactly what Middle east was suppose to do when Mongols invaded Kwarezm, and in failing so they signed their own death sentence.

Maybe you should leave it as it is, just to provide plausible different historical outcome.

[The Sixth Wizard]

Maybe you could call "faction" Jihads without Imams, say build a Jihad building and you can call a Jihad against a non-Muslim faction that only your faction's generals can join. You'd still get the zero upkeep and massive mercenary pool benefits and it would help out the Turks!

[Americanus Supremus]

I dont think that neccesary Mirage. I think it requires a piety of 4 to call a jihad, maybe bump it to six as most of your recruit immans will only have a 2 or 3. Unless you get a theologians guild then your average imman will go up.

And no you guys with BC never said that calling a jihad was impossible, only that ya'll didn't intend for it to be a major part of the game due the jihading armies crossing a lot of territory getting to the target and finding it already taken. Then having to move across all that territory upseting the diplomacy of the factions land they cross. Also mass jihads were not the norm, more of a regional thing. And since there is no way to fix these problems you guys doing the best you can with the tools and game availible. Well I think that about covers it.

So you may want to go ahead and raise it like you planed....

HC

[Lupu]

Oh, ok.
@Pyrebound: Because I have a campaign whre I just sit back in the corner of the map watching empires grow and fall

[Vagabond]

Oh, ok.
@Pyrebound: Because I have a campaign whre I just sit back in the corner of the map watching empires grow and fall

interesting :hmmm:

[Lupu]

Good idea

@mlp071: in my game the mongols did detroy everything, but now theyre invaded by non-jihad armies, especially by ghorids, khwarezm and seljuks.
And ayyubids are stronger than mongols now, so they expanded very rapid, but now theyre just as powerful as a normal in-game faction in deep trouble, thx jihad!

[Pyrebound]

You could just start a hotseat game, take a random faction and then type 'control x' which is your faction. Shouldnt that give all control of the factions to the AI?

Ive only tested it while controlling the mongols so i do not know does it keep continuing the game.. :hmmm:

[Serious Spamurai]

Yeah, it does work, it's a good way of auto-testing a mod campaign for balance, bugs and CTDs.

[Lupu]

it works? Cool! Ill try

[Sher Khan]

Dschihad ausgerufen! Achtung, infidel!

[Sevachenko]

I just love how the Mongols steamroll everyone .

[Kip]

I've only ever had one Jihad called, while playing Ghazni. The Ghorids called it on Dhar, and I hastily captured it to avoid having Turks/Abbassids/Ayyubids/Seljuks/all Muslim factions tromping through my land on the way to Dhar.

That's my only concern about Jihads still being included....I had many instances in vanilla where a stray Crusader stack would meander for a bazillion turns in my territory, and then randomly besiege one of my settlements. Is the AI improved enough that this shouldn't happen in BC?

[Tunch Khan]

I have several imams now slowly increasing the muslim percentage of the provinces they are. Quick question: How does one increase their piety?

There has only been one case where my imam went heretic and I sent a level one piety imam to punish him, which in turn became a level two imam.

How do I get level 4,5,6 or higher piety imams? Because it has been like 10 years/turns and no piety increase yet in either one.

And is it better if they are on the field, or can they still convert the population based inside my cities? Thanks.

[Shadowcry]

Use them to kill heretics/ wizards then they gain piety!